Harlingen South--Head Coach Opening

[panthercrazy]

Harlingen South needs a Head Coach as of 11-19-2008.


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[Alaniz]

Try to get Jeff Dicus from Austin Lake Travis, Celina HC-Butch Ford, Alice HC-Brent Davis,Dallas Cowboys Scout Sam Garza....

I would also suggest looking for state-championship coaches from Florida,Louisiana,Oklahoma,or California.

O yea...I went there. The kids deserve the best.

Landeros and Cortez are doing well at Rio Hondo....and possibly will stay for awhile.

[hunterbunter]

where can hunterbunter apply

[Rawr06]

:eek:

[Mr. Twobits]

put me in coach im ready.

[eagleprophet]

Jeff Dicus is now at Duncanville. If the guy doesn't win there, then he may not be as good as advertised. But trust me, he is a tremendous coach with high expectations and excellent positive motivational skills.

[LAMAQUINA06]

i have i little feeling Leal is going to end up at south

[rgvftblnut]

What gives you that feeling?

[RH Bobcat Fan]

porque son compadres!

[TigerCrazy]

i have i little feeling Leal is going to end up at south

:lies::lies:

[Mr. Twobits]

:lies::lies:

:agree:

[Rawr06]

Honestly, you never know guys. Does South pay more than Mercedes does? :hmmm:

[hawkalum]

Harlingen isnt known to pay its coaches a lot like some other places do. The only reason there is a any chance of Leal at South is because he was on the coaching staff at Harlingen while Randy Cretors was the head coach there and he is the athletic director of H.C.I.S.D. now plus the valley does love to work on the compadre system....but i hope he stays at Mercedes. no offense, but we dont want him at South.

[EE61]

Any word on who has applied for this position? Also, when will they make an announcement on the finalist and finally a coach for these kids.

[Gal]

Coach Solis from EE should apply, he would be a good canidate.

[Rawr06]

For some reason, i don't see Solis coaching there. :hmmm:

That's just me.

[E-E PoWeR HoUsE]

I think Solis would rather stick to another 4a school than going to a 5a

[outlander]

Is he one of the ones that may be fired due to EE hiring too many people?

[hawkalum]

Any word on who has applied for this position? Also, when will they make an announcement on the finalist and finally a coach for these kids.

They arent searching until after the state championship is played. The superintendent said he will publish the advertisement statewide and look at his options from there.

My guess is that they will begin to announce finalists for the position sometime at the end of january

[rgvftblnut]

I have a feeling there will be at least 1 to 2 finalists for the South job that will be out of the Valley Coaching circles. I don't necessarily think that is the way they need to go, but I have a feeling the superintendent may reach out to his former stomping ground to give a OC/DC coordinator a chance. If that is the case, we may be here in 2 years asking the same question on who will be the coach, if the hire does not adjust to the kids and motivate accordingly.

[hawkalum]

I have a feeling there will be at least 1 to 2 finalists for the South job that will be out of the Valley Coaching circles. I don't necessarily think that is the way they need to go, but I have a feeling the superintendent may reach out to his former stomping ground to give a OC/DC coordinator a chance. If that is the case, we may be here in 2 years asking the same question on who will be the coach, if the hire does not adjust to the kids and motivate accordingly.

They need to offer the opportunity to Jesse Landeros, former OC at South and current OC at Rio Hondo. Landeros was there since the school opened and is the best candidate for the job in the eyes of many South faithful, including mine. He shouldve been the head coach to begin with instead of Cherry.

[Southtex]

They need to offer the opportunity to Jesse Landeros, former OC at South and current OC at Rio Hondo. Landeros was there since the school opened and is the best candidate for the job in the eyes of many South faithful, including mine. He shouldve been the head coach to begin with instead of Cherry.

Welcome to the forums Jesse!

:snicker:

[hawkalum]

Welcome to the forums Jesse!

:snicker:

:lies:

lol good one.

Rest assured, i was a former South player, NOT a South coach.

[ibleedpurple]

So is it gonna be Pena?

[RPM]

didnt Pena just get his contract renwed at San Bene...

[The Myth, The Legend....]

The Hidalgo Pena. LOL

[RPM]

same thing no...LOL!....jk...put some 1st names on guys...dont want to start spreading rumors...lol!

[ibleedpurple]

:lies:

[TigerCrazy]

So who got the job??:hmmm::hmmm:

[sweetninjas]

They need to offer the opportunity to Jesse Landeros, former OC at South and current OC at Rio Hondo. Landeros was there since the school opened and is the best candidate for the job in the eyes of many South faithful, including mine. He shouldve been the head coach to begin with instead of Cherry.

I disagree. Even though Cherry was popped. I think someone outside the Valley would be a better fit for South.

[sweetninjas]

Harlingen isnt known to pay its coaches a lot like some other places do. The only reason there is a any chance of Leal at South is because he was on the coaching staff at Harlingen while Randy Cretors was the head coach there and he is the athletic director of H.C.I.S.D. now plus the valley does love to work on the compadre system....but i hope he stays at Mercedes. no offense, but we dont want him at South.


So when did you become the voice of Harlingen South?

Plus your an ex-player a.k.a. has been. The coaching change/new coach will not affect you directly.

[hawkalum]

So when did you become the voice of Harlingen South?

Plus your an ex-player a.k.a. has been. The coaching change/new coach will not affect you directly.

Did I ever say i was the voice of Harlingen South? No i didnt, so shut it boy.

did it ever occur to you that i have family that is in the program there right now?
did it ever occur to you that i want the best for my little brother and nothing less?
did it ever occur to you that a lot of my friends are still in the program?
No....i bet it didnt.

Besides I dont care if im a has-been, ex-player, whatever you may call me, i still love that school and its always my alma mater. That school and program did a lot for me when i was there, whats wrong with me caring about what happens after im gone?

[Ol' Buzzard]

Did I ever say i was the voice of Harlingen South? No i didnt, so shut it boy.

did it ever occur to you that i have family that is in the program there right now?
did it ever occur to you that i want the best for my little brother and nothing less?
did it ever occur to you that a lot of my friends are still in the program?
No....i bet it didnt.

Besides I dont care if im a has-been, ex-player, whatever you may call me, i still love that school and its always my alma mater. That school and program did a lot for me when i was there, whats wrong with me caring about what happens after im gone?
:boxing:

[valleyfan]

I disagree. Even though Cherry was popped. I think someone outside the Valley would be a better fit for South.


I agree...Someone other than my little sisters cousin who I saw at the mall for the job...New blood is the way to go. It still will be a rebuilding year.

[panthercrazy]

:handball:

[TigerCrazy]

The Question
Who be HSHS
next Coach??

[valleyfan]

It will not be Leal!!!!

[panthercrazy]

:argh::argh::argh::argh:

[Ol' Buzzard]

Maybe he will have better luck in that district!

[ibleedpurple]

someone in the another thread said it was gonna be medrano.

[sweetninjas]

Did I ever say i was the voice of Harlingen South? No i didnt, so shut it boy.

did it ever occur to you that i have family that is in the program there right now?
did it ever occur to you that i want the best for my little brother and nothing less?
did it ever occur to you that a lot of my friends are still in the program?
No....i bet it didnt.

Besides I dont care if im a has-been, ex-player, whatever you may call me, i still love that school and its always my alma mater. That school and program did a lot for me when i was there, whats wrong with me caring about what happens after im gone?

No, you didn't, but you sure as hell act like it. Understand boy?

Personally, South could hire Tom Landry if he were alive and they would still lose.

SOUTH = 0 talent.


Cherry was NOT the problem, teams go through bad years and South is going through it. How in the world can you get a program going in two years? Yes, he did walk into a very solid team, but look at what he got this year? Nada, ZERO talent.


If you want the best for you brother have him transfer out ASAP.

[DreadRed99]

true that! look at harlingen. AWESOME 94-97. and then 98-99 they were the worst teams EVER. but 1 thing harlingen high has had is coaches that stay a while bret boyd 5 yrs, cretors 6yrs. i personally believe that south needs to find a coach that will stay more than 3 yrs

[hawkalum]

No, you didn't, but you sure as hell act like it. Understand boy?

Personally, South could hire Tom Landry if he were alive and they would still lose.

SOUTH = 0 talent.


Cherry was NOT the problem, teams go through bad years and South is going through it. How in the world can you get a program going in two years? Yes, he did walk into a very solid team, but look at what he got this year? Nada, ZERO talent.


If you want the best for you brother have him transfer out ASAP.

South has TONS of talent, but you wouldnt want to recognize that obviously. You're from the rival school, and with a hated rivalry like Harlingen and Harlingen South have, no other school will ever want to recognize the talent the other has.

You need to stop talking about things you know nothing about. Cherry WAS the problem. He was the reason that so many coaches left. He was the reason that the 2007-2008 offseason went to shambles. Their strength and conditioning coaches did not want to work under Cherry, so the players did not have a solid conditioning program for 7 months. 5 out of 8 varsity coaches left. 3 of them had been there for more than 8 years and as soon as Cherry shows up, they leave. coincidence? i think not! I've spoken to 4 of those 5 coaches and they all gave me the same story about Cherry. Because of Cherry's lack of leadership and coaching, the morale was at an all time low in the program.
I know South probably did not have the kind of team to repeat an undefeated season, but had they had the right coaching and leadership, they were most certainly a playoff caliber team.

[MANIMAL]

its a decent list........should be interesting

[Firethatburnswithin]

[QUOTE=MANIMAL;146125]its a decent list........should be interesting[/Q

Post the list...

[Rawr06]

[QUOTE=MANIMAL;146125]its a decent list........should be interesting[/Q

Post the list...

http://www.rgvsports.com/articles/head_3589___article.html/coach_south.html


The following is the list of applicants for the vacant Harlingen South head football coach/athletic coordinator position provided by Harlingen CISD: (In alphabetical order)

>> Richard Alaniz, Laredo United ISD

>> Marcus Booker, Cotulla head coach

>> David Evans, former Valley View, Donna, Hanna head coach

>> Robert Fraga, Harlingen assistant

>> Spencer Gantt, Harlingen offensive coordinator

>> Michael Gaston, San Antonio Holmes head coach

>> George Gomez, Donna defensive coordinator

>> Mario Heredia, San Antonio Southwest defensive coordinator

>> Pat Inskeep, Harlingen South assistant

>> Fred Johnson, Wichita Falls ISD

>> Jerome Kantor, McKinney ISD

>> Paul Kilby, San Marcos offensive coordinator/QBs

>> Clarence Kirk, Houston St. Pius X head coach

>> Craig Krell, McHi assistant

>> Jesse Landeros, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator

>> Gilbert Leal, Mercedes head coach

>> Philip Lopez, former McAllen Memorial, Rio Rancho N.M., head coach

>> Jerry Malone, Marlin head coach

>> Scott McRitchie, Hemet West Valley (CA) head coach

>> Miguel Medina, Roma assistant

>> Rene Medrano, Brownsville Pace head coach

>> Sergio Munoz, La Feria assistant

>> Jorge Pena, former Hidalgo, RGC head coach

>> Mike Ramirez, Kenedy head coach

>> Rene Rosales, Spring Branch ISD

>> Carlos Saenz, Poteet defensive coordinator

>> Joe Salinas, Van Horn, La Villa head coach

>> Juan Sanchez, Premont ISD

>> Stanley Scott, Aldine ISD

>> Carl Straube, Mathis ISD

>> Radford Taylor, Dallas Skyline assistant

>> Gus Torres, Harlingen South assistant

>> Todd Waters, Beaumont Central offensive coordinator

>> Jason Wheeler, Los Fresnos defensive coordinator

>> Nicholas Williams, Alamo Heights ISD

[Firethatburnswithin]

There sure is a lot of coaches out of the valley that are looking for a job down here.. Wonder what they've seen out of HS...Good luck to all the candidates...

[Ol' Buzzard]

[QUOTE=Firethatburnswithin;146179]

http://www.rgvsports.com/articles/head_3589___article.html/coach_south.html


The following is the list of applicants for the vacant Harlingen South head football coach/athletic coordinator position provided by Harlingen CISD: (In alphabetical order)

>> Richard Alaniz, Laredo United ISD

>> Marcus Booker, Cotulla head coach

>> David Evans, former Valley View, Donna, Hanna head coach

>> Robert Fraga, Harlingen assistant

>> Spencer Gantt, Harlingen offensive coordinator

>> Michael Gaston, San Antonio Holmes head coach

>> George Gomez, Donna defensive coordinator

>> Mario Heredia, San Antonio Southwest defensive coordinator

>> Pat Inskeep, Harlingen South assistant

>> Fred Johnson, Wichita Falls ISD

>> Jerome Kantor, McKinney ISD

>> Paul Kilby, San Marcos offensive coordinator/QBs

>> Clarence Kirk, Houston St. Pius X head coach

>> Craig Krell, McHi assistant

>> Jesse Landeros, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator

>> Gilbert Leal, Mercedes head coach

>> Philip Lopez, former McAllen Memorial, Rio Rancho N.M., head coach

>> Jerry Malone, Marlin head coach

>> Scott McRitchie, Hemet West Valley (CA) head coach

>> Miguel Medina, Roma assistant

>> Rene Medrano, Brownsville Pace head coach

>> Sergio Munoz, La Feria assistant

>> Jorge Pena, former Hidalgo, RGC head coach

>> Mike Ramirez, Kenedy head coach

>> Rene Rosales, Spring Branch ISD

>> Carlos Saenz, Poteet defensive coordinator

>> Joe Salinas, Van Horn, La Villa head coach

>> Juan Sanchez, Premont ISD

>> Stanley Scott, Aldine ISD

>> Carl Straube, Mathis ISD

>> Radford Taylor, Dallas Skyline assistant

>> Gus Torres, Harlingen South assistant

>> Todd Waters, Beaumont Central offensive coordinator

>> Jason Wheeler, Los Fresnos defensive coordinator

>> Nicholas Williams, Alamo Heights ISD


Well, if people think that they need "talented" coaches from up north, there seem to be plenty of them on that list.

[MANIMAL]

uhhhhhhhh which of thsoe up north coaches are considered talented?

[Ol' Buzzard]

uhhhhhhhh which of thsoe up north coaches are considered talented?

Beats the hell out of me, but there are some who are of the opinion that it will take an outsider's perspective from the North to beat teams from out of the RGv.

[eagleprophet]

That outsider from the north thing is way overrated. Take a coach from here and let them coach up north and they can win. Example- Jeff Dicus and Rusty Dowling. Both of them were former Mission Eagles coaches and did not win state. They move up north and win state. I bet if a coach like Ford, Alex Leal, Mario Pena, or any of the other good coaches from the RGV were to be given a chance to coach up north where the talent level is high, they too can win state or make a deep run at least. IMO.

[Southtex]

That outsider from the north thing is way overrated. Take a coach from here and let them coach up north and they can win. Example- Jeff Dicus and Rusty Dowling. Both of them were former Mission Eagles coaches and did not win state. They move up north and win state. I bet if a coach like Ford, Alex Leal, Mario Pena, or any of the other good coaches from the RGV were to be given a chance to coach up north where the talent level is high, they too can win state or make a deep run at least. IMO.

Agree 100%. A great coach is a great coach, period. Sometimes the records don't tell the whole story. Goes the other way around too. Cherry is not as good as his 10-0 season and he's not as bad as his 2-8 season.

[sweetninjas]

South has TONS of talent, but you wouldnt want to recognize that obviously. You're from the rival school, and with a hated rivalry like Harlingen and Harlingen South have, no other school will ever want to recognize the talent the other has.

You need to stop talking about things you know nothing about. Cherry WAS the problem. He was the reason that so many coaches left. He was the reason that the 2007-2008 offseason went to shambles. Their strength and conditioning coaches did not want to work under Cherry, so the players did not have a solid conditioning program for 7 months. 5 out of 8 varsity coaches left. 3 of them had been there for more than 8 years and as soon as Cherry shows up, they leave. coincidence? i think not! I've spoken to 4 of those 5 coaches and they all gave me the same story about Cherry. Because of Cherry's lack of leadership and coaching, the morale was at an all time low in the program.
I know South probably did not have the kind of team to repeat an undefeated season, but had they had the right coaching and leadership, they were most certainly a playoff caliber team.

Were was it? All levels got beat down this year. I did NOT notice any particular player form the JV or Freshmen squad worth mentioning.

[davi34]

That outsider from the north thing is way overrated. Take a coach from here and let them coach up north and they can win. Example- Jeff Dicus and Rusty Dowling. Both of them were former Mission Eagles coaches and did not win state. They move up north and win state. I bet if a coach like Ford, Alex Leal, Mario Pena, or any of the other good coaches from the RGV were to be given a chance to coach up north where the talent level is high, they too can win state or make a deep run at least. IMO.



Technically Dicuss was a coach from "up north" before he came down here. The big difference between valley coaches and "up north" coaches is there style of offese. Valley coaches love to run the ball no matter what the formation Slot T there are so many backs its obvious, spread the QB is gonna run. coaches from up north already know passing the ball consistently is the only way to make a run in the playoffs not running. i dont care who u have in the backfield

[hawkalum]

Were was it? All levels got beat down this year. I did NOT notice any particular player form the JV or Freshmen squad worth mentioning.

Thats because there was nobody around to mold that talent into a winning team! A team cannot coach itself for an entire season!

This past year there was talent in the running backs position, the receivers position, linebackers, and defensive line. But when 5 out of 8 coaches who have been coaching these players for 2-3 years up and leave, its a rare thing for a coaching staff to mold a team when they were introduced a few weeks before 2-a-days.

[eagleprophet]

Technically Dicuss was a coach from "up north" before he came down here. The big difference between valley coaches and "up north" coaches is there style of offese. Valley coaches love to run the ball no matter what the formation Slot T there are so many backs its obvious, spread the QB is gonna run. coaches from up north already know passing the ball consistently is the only way to make a run in the playoffs not running. i dont care who u have in the backfield

Yes he was, but he started winning here in Mission and tried out his offensive scheme with a good mix of talent. Bottom line, a good coach from here can do just as good as a good coach from up north.

Imagine what Ford could do with a Katy, Southlake Carrol, Smithson Valley, etc.

The run is something that is being used less and less even here in the RGV. Teams are way more balanced. Yes, there are still coaches who strictly run the ball, but that is also evident up north. Lots of team use the run as their primary weapon.

[davi34]

Yes he was, but he started winning here in Mission and tried out his offensive scheme with a good mix of talent. Bottom line, a good coach from here can do just as good as a good coach from up north.

Imagine what Ford could do with a Katy, Southlake Carrol, Smithson Valley, etc.

The run is something that is being used less and less even here in the RGV. Teams are way more balanced. Yes, there are still coaches who strictly run the ball, but that is also evident up north. Lots of team use the run as their primary weapon.

yea i can see what u are saying but as of right now i would take a good central texas north texas coach over anybody from the valley

[eagleprophet]

yea i can see what u are saying but as of right now i would take a good central texas north texas coach over anybody from the valley

Well chances are you're getting someone from the RGV and you better work your arse off just as hard for a coach from the RGV as one from up North in Central Texas. Alot of what you do in the off season comes to pay dividends in the fall. I hear Coach Pherson is taking charge right now. Well you all better listen to all his calls on you guys and go above and beyond his call of duty right now.

winning starts in the off season. And you're in transition so don't let it be a big speed bump for the team.

[TigerCrazy]

Gilbert Leal, Mercedes head coach

I wonder who would
take his spot as head coach!

[LAMAQUINA06]

Joe Solis

[teamfalcon]

>> Richard Alaniz, Laredo United ISD

>> Marcus Booker, Cotulla head coach

>> David Evans, former Valley View, Donna, Hanna head coach

>> Robert Fraga, Harlingen assistant

>> Spencer Gantt, Harlingen offensive coordinator

>> Michael Gaston, San Antonio Holmes head coach (finished the season as with a 1-9 record)

>> George Gomez, Donna defensive coordinator

>> Mario Heredia, San Antonio Southwest defensive coordinator (Lost in 3rd round this year)

>> Pat Inskeep, Harlingen South assistant

>> Fred Johnson, Wichita Falls ISD (Finished 2-8 this year)

>> Jerome Kantor, McKinney ISD

>> Paul Kilby, San Marcos offensive coordinator/QBs (Finished 2-8 this year)

>> Clarence Kirk, Houston St. Pius X head coach(Private School State Champs in 2007, 2006, 1999.............)

>> Craig Krell, McHi assistant

>> Jesse Landeros, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator

>> Gilbert Leal, Mercedes head coach

>> Philip Lopez, former McAllen Memorial, Rio Rancho N.M., head coach (4-4 in 2008)

>> Jerry Malone, Marlin head coach ( 2-8 in 2008)

>> Scott McRitchie, Hemet West Valley (CA) head coach (9-2 in 2008 playoffs, 6-5 in 2007 playoffs, 2-8 in 2006, 6-5 in 2005 playoffs)

>> Miguel Medina, Roma assistant

>> Rene Medrano, Brownsville Pace head coach

>> Sergio Munoz, La Feria assistant

>> Jorge Pena, former Hidalgo, RGC head coach

>> Mike Ramirez, Kenedy head coach

>> Rene Rosales, Spring Branch ISD (Houston)

>> Carlos Saenz, Poteet defensive coordinator

>> Joe Salinas, Van Horn, La Villa head coach

>> Juan Sanchez, Premont ISD

>> Stanley Scott, Aldine ISD

>> Carl Straube, Mathis ISD

>> Radford Taylor, Dallas Skyline assistant (12-2 in 2008, 12-2 in 2007, not sure what Radford Taylor does on that team)

>> Gus Torres, Harlingen South assistant

>> Todd Waters, Beaumont Central offensive coordinator

>> Jason Wheeler, Los Fresnos defensive coordinator

>> Nicholas Williams, Alamo Heights ISD

[Ol' Buzzard]

^^ Why all the bolded names? Are those the people that South should NOT hire? Or is it just a notation of some peculiar/interesting names?

[Ol' Buzzard]

Gilbert Leal, Mercedes head coach

I wonder who would
take his spot as head coach!

Does it really matter?

[Southtex]

Does it really matter?

As in he won't get hired at Hgn South or it doesn't matter who is HC in Mercedes?

[Ol' Buzzard]

As in he won't get hired at Hgn South or it doesn't matter who is HC in Mercedes?


Looking at the list of candidates and considering the stunt he pulled this season, the people at South would be fools to hire Leal. But that wasn't really what I was referring to... it doesn't really matter who replaces Leal... well, actually it does. Their entire program needs to be revamped gatcho-bad!

Now, who replaces Lee @ Mission High... that matters, because High could be VERY DANGEROUS with the right coach.

[Southtex]

Looking at the list of candidates and considering the stunt he pulled this season, the people at South would be fools to hire Leal. But that wasn't really what I was referring to... it doesn't really matter who replaces Leal... well, actually it does. Their entire program needs to be revamped gatcho-bad!

Now, who replaces Lee @ Mission High... that matters, because High could be VERY DANGEROUS with the right coach.


Interesting. I was under the impression the Mercedes program was doing quite well considering they've beaten eveyone in their district other than EE 2years in a row. If that's gatcho-bad, count me in.

If he does go, I hope they keep someone who knows Leal's open playbook because the QB coming back is as good as any in the valley, if he can stay in school.

[Ol' Buzzard]

Interesting. I was under the impression the Mercedes program was doing quite well considering they've beaten eveyone in their district other than EE 2years in a row. If that's gatcho-bad, count me in.

If he does go, I hope they keep someone who knows Leal's open playbook because the QB coming back is as good as any in the valley, if he can stay in school.

:lolup: Before you try to come back live with me, get your facts straight. Two words: Valley View :doh: GATCHO-BAD!

[Southtex]

Still finished 2nd in district 2 years in a row. I'll take it. Mercedes was Valley View 5 years ago.

[teamfalcon]

^^ Why all the bolded names? Are those the people that South should NOT hire? Or is it just a notation of some peculiar/interesting names?

Well, I put'em in 'bold' because although they are coaches from 'up north', they are coming off bad seasons and were probably let go.

I'll highlight the ones are I THINK (antes que cheea sweetie) would be good choices.

[Ol' Buzzard]

Well, I put'em in 'bold' because although they are coaches from 'up north', they are coming off bad seasons and were probably let go.

I'll highlight the ones are I THINK (antes que cheea sweetie) would be good choices.

:doh: I was wondering why coaches from up north would be interested in coming to the RGV... would make perfect sense if the reason was because they didn't have a job.

[exhawk1997]

any news???

[TigerCrazy]

any news???

Yeah any news??

[MANIMAL]

>> Richard Alaniz, Laredo United ISD

>> Marcus Booker, Cotulla head coach

>> David Evans, former Valley View, Donna, Hanna head coach

>> Robert Fraga, Harlingen assistant

>> Spencer Gantt, Harlingen offensive coordinator

>> Michael Gaston, San Antonio Holmes head coach (finished the season as with a 1-9 record)

>> George Gomez, Donna defensive coordinator

>> Mario Heredia, San Antonio Southwest defensive coordinator (Lost in 3rd round this year)

>> Pat Inskeep, Harlingen South assistant

>> Fred Johnson, Wichita Falls ISD (Finished 2-8 this year)

>> Jerome Kantor, McKinney ISD

>> Paul Kilby, San Marcos offensive coordinator/QBs (Finished 2-8 this year)

>> Clarence Kirk, Houston St. Pius X head coach(Private School State Champs in 2007, 2006, 1999.............)

>> Craig Krell, McHi assistant

>> Jesse Landeros, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator

>> Gilbert Leal, Mercedes head coach

>> Philip Lopez, former McAllen Memorial, Rio Rancho N.M., head coach (4-4 in 2008)

>> Jerry Malone, Marlin head coach ( 2-8 in 2008)

>> Scott McRitchie, Hemet West Valley (CA) head coach (9-2 in 2008 playoffs, 6-5 in 2007 playoffs, 2-8 in 2006, 6-5 in 2005 playoffs)

>> Miguel Medina, Roma assistant

>> Rene Medrano, Brownsville Pace head coach

>> Sergio Munoz, La Feria assistant

>> Jorge Pena, former Hidalgo, RGC head coach

>> Mike Ramirez, Kenedy head coach

>> Rene Rosales, Spring Branch ISD (Houston)

>> Carlos Saenz, Poteet defensive coordinator

>> Joe Salinas, Van Horn, La Villa head coach

>> Juan Sanchez, Premont ISD

>> Stanley Scott, Aldine ISD

>> Carl Straube, Mathis ISD

>> Radford Taylor, Dallas Skyline assistant (12-2 in 2008, 12-2 in 2007, not sure what Radford Taylor does on that team)

>> Gus Torres, Harlingen South assistant

>> Todd Waters, Beaumont Central offensive coordinator

>> Jason Wheeler, Los Fresnos defensive coordinator

>> Nicholas Williams, Alamo Heights ISD


ya Philip Lopez shouldnt even be considered after failing to do anything with memorial program

[Ol' Buzzard]

ya Philip Lopez shouldnt even be considered after failing to do anything with memorial program

Everybody deserves a second chance.

[lffalconsrule]

any news???

They will interview the final 3 or 4 tomorrow morning. At least one of them is a current head coach somewhere else. He is the only one that I know for sure right now.

[the machine]

I think Medrano will be the one

[exhawk1997]

They will interview the final 3 or 4 tomorrow morning. At least one of them is a current head coach somewhere else. He is the only one that I know for sure right now.

Thanks :)

[sdrac]

It's between Gantt & Medrano.....

[Ol' Buzzard]

It's between Gantt & Medrano.....

Fact or Opinion?

[rgvftblnut]

It's all opinion until the Superintendent sends his choice to the school board....but it's fun to guess....

[MorristheCat]

and the winner is.....Gilbert Leal.

[Southtex]

and the winner is.....Gilbert Leal.

Done deal? This will get some hate from the EE contingent, but Harlingen South got themselves a great coach if true. He took Mercedes from 1-9 to playoffs every year. That's what the Hawks need.

[JRG]

Orale Mr. Twobits, now you can start working on your resume.....:cheers:

[teamfalcon]

It's between Gantt & Medrano.....

Uta madre.........Really?

There was some interesting coaches in the pool........


Same ol' Same ol'.

[teamfalcon]

and the winner is.....Gilbert Leal.

You're kidding me.............right?

[valleyfan]

I hope not!!! He could not even control what happened in Tigerland... Furthermore, is he not the one who at the last minute pull his app. He burned the brigde once and now he wants to cross it again. I say make him wait at least three rounds before considering him again. It was easy for him to walk the first time, what makes you think he would not do it again.
Hope the board is not swayed thru Cretors and I do not want anybody to question me Nava.

In reference to Leal...

[rgvftblnut]

This sounds pretty bitter to me. If Leal is the choice, you can Monday morning quarterback all you want. For the South contingent, it is about getting a quality coaching staff, moving forward, and having them focus on the future and not the past.

I think Leal or Medrano are more than capable of doing that.

[Ol' Buzzard]

and the winner is.....Gilbert Leal.

:doh:

[sweetninjas]

FYI

This might not mean much, but...


My Father-in-law is an assistant principal at Vela Middle school and he's heard that Principal Nava is a very close friend to Medrano. He's heard that Nava is really trying to convince the commitee to bring in Medrano.

[Southtex]

Leal or Medrano would be the best picks of the whole in my opinion. Leal probably the best based on how he turned Mercedes around. The fact that EE people don't like him makes me like him even more...

[sweetninjas]

I said it first.

Gilbert Leal is the new South coach.

[Ol' Buzzard]

Leal or Medrano would be the best picks of the whole in my opinion. Leal probably the best based on how he turned Mercedes around. The fact that EE people don't like him makes me like him even more...
What gross misuse of the phrase "turned .... around!"

[the machine]

wow, I thought what happened the first time would do Leal in, but he should count his blessings for a second chance

[Ol' Buzzard]

and the winner is.....Gilbert Leal.

No, he said it first!


I said it first.

Gilbert Leal is the new South coach.

[sweetninjas]

No, he said it first!


Damn! Your right, but he's from Weslaco he doesn't count.

[TigerCrazy]

:pop::pop:

[sweetninjas]

Leal lucked out. After all the crap he pulled, this was the perfect ticket out.

[sweetninjas]

:pop::pop:

Well, TC what do you think? This affects you more than me...

[TigerCrazy]

Well, TC what do you think? This affects you more than me...

I think thats crazy man I wonder
who is going to be Mercedes new
head coach i started a topic!

[exhawk1997]

:eek:


I'm going to sleep on it....

[Ol' Buzzard]

Leal lucked out. After all the crap he pulled, this was the perfect ticket out.


Well, TC what do you think? This affects you more than me...

I can't believe this guy is being more credit than he deserves. Taking Mercedes from 1-9 to what they were last season.... not really much of an accomplishment if you throw in that argument that EE fans hear a MILLION TIMES (THEY ARE IN A WEAK DISTRICT). Oh, now that point doesn't count. :hmmm: Besides, Mercedes is not Valley View or Roma that is a new program or some program that has been plagued with losing for years and years. So I just think it's funny that the one guy in the previous post and obviously the people @ Har. South have Leal pegged as the grand savior.

Well, nonetheless, best of luck to him over there. Hopefully he has more success than he had in district 32-4a...

[Ol' Buzzard]

:eek:


I'm going to sleep on it....

and what? Hope to wake up the next morning to discover it was only a NIGHTMARE!!!!!!

[LAMAQUINA06]

he left mercy cuz he always live in the shadow of EE and wii now be the shadow of har cards

[MTEXAS99]

im glad he is out he truly wanted out since last summer

[Ol' Buzzard]

im glad he is out he truly wanted out since last summer

:eek: MTEXAS99 coming out of the woodwork for the special news!

What is your rationale on this one?

[DARKSIDE]

Congrats to Leal so whos next at mercedes.........

[Ol' Buzzard]

Congrats to Leal so whos next at mercedes.........

And then a special appearance by darkside too!

[rgvftblnut]

Gilbert Leal named South's new football coach
Comments 0 | Recommend 2
January 13, 2009 - 10:37 PM
ELADIO JAIMEZ
RGVSports.com
HARLINGEN - Welcome home, Gilbert Leal.

In a unanimous vote by the Harlingen school board on Tuesday, Mercedes head football coach Gilbert Leal was selected as the next head football coach and athletic coordinator at Harlingen South.

Leal replaces Alan Cherry and becomes only the fifth head coach in school history.

"I'm speechless," Leal said. "It's my dream job. I'm just happy at the opportunity to come back and coach in Harlingen."

The board met in executive session for approximately one hour to discuss the hiring of Leal and other matters.

But when the board reconvened, the decision to hire Leal was a rather quick one.

"He's an outstanding leader," board president George McShan said. "He's got a proven track record and he's a great leader for young people."

He's not one-dimensional. I've known Gilbert my whole life since I coached him in Little League baseball. He's going to be a wonderful leader."

Leal coached at Mercedes the past four seasons where took over in 2005.

Mercedes endured an agonizing 1-9 season in 2004 but Leal quickly righted the ship taking the Tigers to the postseason in 2006 for the first time in eight years.

Mercedes reached the playoffs three straight seasons, but lost each time to Valley nemesis Calallen.

"It's going to be a tough day tomorrow (Wednesday)," Leal said. "Not one day while I was at Mercedes did I consider it a job. We were a family and it's going to be difficult to say goodbye."

Prior to Mercedes, Leal served as offensive coordinator for the Harlingen Cardinals from 2000-05. Leal coached under current Harlingen athletic director Randy Cretors during that time.

Leal was a Cardinals assistant and quarterback's coach from 1995-2000.

"I'm very excited to have Gilbert come back to Harlingen," Cretors said. "I'm very ecstatic right now."

Leal's been coaching since 1993 when he served as a seventh grade football and basketball coach. He took over as a freshman assistant in 1994 before joining the Cardinals varsity staff.

Leal played quarterback for the Harlingen Cards in the mid-1980s and later played at UTEP and Sul Ross State.

Leal was one of five finalists including Brownsville Pace head coach Rene Medrano, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator Jesse Landeros, Harlingen South defensive coordinator Pat Inskeep and Harlingen offensive coordinator Spencer Gantt.

"At Harlingen, we value academics and student participation in extra curricular activities," superintendent Steve Flores said. "We took this hiring process seriously and tried to find the best fit for Harlingen South. We required someone with energetic and committed leadership. With that said, this was a difficult choice but it's one that we're very proud of."

The South job opened up when Cherry was relieved of his duties in mid-November.

The move came less than two weeks after the end of a dreadful 2008 season that saw the Hawks endure a 2-8 campaign.

This came just one season after South went 10-0, won the District 31-5A championship and went three rounds deep into the playoffs in 2007.

Cherry was hired in March 2007 to replace Jim Helms.

Helms coached the Hawks for three seasons and took South to the postseason in 2006. South reached the third round of the playoffs for only the second time in school history.

Helms took over for John Lerma in 2004. Current Raymondville head coach Alex Leal was the school's first ever head football coach when the school opened its doors in 1993.

Eladio Jaimez covers District 31-5A for Valley Freedom Newspapers. He can be reached at eladioj@valleystar.com

[rgvproud]

While I wish Gilbert Leal good luck at his new position, I'm very surprised with the "spineless" Board Members in Harlingen who have so quickly forgotten how they were rejected two years ago by the same applicant! The whole Cherry episode would have never happened. Ironic that this is the week to appreciate Board members.

[teamfalcon]

What a monumental blunder by Harlingen South if they pick Gilbert Leal.

(shaking head)

They had a chance to bring in some fresh ideas and not a recycled coach, and they blew it.


South goes 1-9 next year in his first year.

[valleyfan]

Gilbert Leal named South's new football coach
Comments 0 | Recommend 2
January 13, 2009 - 10:37 PM
ELADIO JAIMEZ
RGVSports.com
HARLINGEN - Welcome home, Gilbert Leal.

In a unanimous vote by the Harlingen school board on Tuesday, Mercedes head football coach Gilbert Leal was selected as the next head football coach and athletic coordinator at Harlingen South.

Leal replaces Alan Cherry and becomes only the fifth head coach in school history.

"I'm speechless," Leal said. "It's my dream job. I'm just happy at the opportunity to come back and coach in Harlingen."

The board met in executive session for approximately one hour to discuss the hiring of Leal and other matters.

But when the board reconvened, the decision to hire Leal was a rather quick one.

"He's an outstanding leader," board president George McShan said. "He's got a proven track record and he's a great leader for young people."

He's not one-dimensional. I've known Gilbert my whole life since I coached him in Little League baseball. He's going to be a wonderful leader."

Leal coached at Mercedes the past four seasons where took over in 2005.

Mercedes endured an agonizing 1-9 season in 2004 but Leal quickly righted the ship taking the Tigers to the postseason in 2006 for the first time in eight years.

Mercedes reached the playoffs three straight seasons, but lost each time to Valley nemesis Calallen.

"It's going to be a tough day tomorrow (Wednesday)," Leal said. "Not one day while I was at Mercedes did I consider it a job. We were a family and it's going to be difficult to say goodbye."

Prior to Mercedes, Leal served as offensive coordinator for the Harlingen Cardinals from 2000-05. Leal coached under current Harlingen athletic director Randy Cretors during that time.

Leal was a Cardinals assistant and quarterback's coach from 1995-2000.

"I'm very excited to have Gilbert come back to Harlingen," Cretors said. "I'm very ecstatic right now."

Leal's been coaching since 1993 when he served as a seventh grade football and basketball coach. He took over as a freshman assistant in 1994 before joining the Cardinals varsity staff.

Leal played quarterback for the Harlingen Cards in the mid-1980s and later played at UTEP and Sul Ross State.

Leal was one of five finalists including Brownsville Pace head coach Rene Medrano, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator Jesse Landeros, Harlingen South defensive coordinator Pat Inskeep and Harlingen offensive coordinator Spencer Gantt.

"At Harlingen, we value academics and student participation in extra curricular activities," superintendent Steve Flores said. "We took this hiring process seriously and tried to find the best fit for Harlingen South. We required someone with energetic and committed leadership. With that said, this was a difficult choice but it's one that we're very proud of."

The South job opened up when Cherry was relieved of his duties in mid-November.

The move came less than two weeks after the end of a dreadful 2008 season that saw the Hawks endure a 2-8 campaign.

This came just one season after South went 10-0, won the District 31-5A championship and went three rounds deep into the playoffs in 2007.

Cherry was hired in March 2007 to replace Jim Helms.

Helms coached the Hawks for three seasons and took South to the postseason in 2006. South reached the third round of the playoffs for only the second time in school history.

Helms took over for John Lerma in 2004. Current Raymondville head coach Alex Leal was the school's first ever head football coach when the school opened its doors in 1993.

Eladio Jaimez covers District 31-5A for Valley Freedom Newspapers. He can be reached at eladioj@valleystar.com



So when he goes 2-8 is he going to be reasigned? What a joke! He was not the best qualified individual for the position. Take a look at the list there were applicants who had won state championships. The board president said it himself, "I've known Gilbert my whole life since I coached him in Little League baseball." He's going to be a wonderful leader."
" Cretors said. "I'm very ecstatic right now." I am sure that the board and cretors are delighted to have a little pawn on the board that will not stir the pot.

The only thing that Leal proved, in for real B, in a weak 4a division is nothing, except not holding the kids there accountable. Besides EE who in their division has quality teams year in and year out. Nothing against VV or Roma, but please a spade is a spade.

Leal was one of five finalists including Brownsville Pace head coach Rene Medrano, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator Jesse Landeros, Harlingen South defensive coordinator Pat Inskeep and Harlingen offensive coordinator Spencer Gantt.
It looks like it was home cooking the whole way!!! No outsiders made the final cut....yeah right....I would love to see the open records act on this one and just see how they justified this one. Oh! Steve welcome to the compadre ship a sail.......Just another part of the problem and not the solution....Your titanic is on the horizon.

[Ol' Buzzard]

So when he goes 2-8 is he going to be reasigned? What a joke! He was not the best qualified individual for the position. Take a look at the list there were applicants who had won state championships. The board president said it himself, "I've known Gilbert my whole life since I coached him in Little League baseball." He's going to be a wonderful leader."
" Cretors said. "I'm very ecstatic right now." I am sure that the board and cretors are delighted to have a little pawn on the board that will not stir the pot.

The only thing that Leal proved, in for real B, in a weak 4a division is nothing, except not holding the kids there accountable. Besides EE who in their division has quality teams year in and year out. Nothing against VV or Roma, but please a spade is a spade.

Leal was one of five finalists including Brownsville Pace head coach Rene Medrano, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator Jesse Landeros, Harlingen South defensive coordinator Pat Inskeep and Harlingen offensive coordinator Spencer Gantt.
It looks like it was home cooking the whole way!!! No outsiders made the final cut....yeah right....I would love to see the open records act on this one and just see how they justified this one. Oh! Steve welcome to the compadre ship a sail.......Just another part of the problem and not the solution....Your titanic is on the horizon.

You have to wonder if this was an inside job... in other words, the whole application process was just for show... they already knew they were intending to hire Leal.

[rgvftblnut]

How is this recycling?

Would a choice of Medrano, Evans, Pena be recylcing?

Bringing old assistants from Harlingen back be recycling?

Bringing Ford back when he left the first time be recycling?

I am unclear on your definition. Recycling to me means bringing the same coach back again. If that is true, then you need to look in the mirror.

Ford has done a great job in Los Fresnos, when Leal and Medrano were in Harlingen as assistants, the Cardinals did well. If you want change by bringing coaches from up North to the Valley, what are you looking for. They all go to the same coaching conventions and get the same ideas from the college head coaches. I would get nervous if coaches don't change with changes in the Game itself. Whether its a Wildcat formation or sending Defensive Ends back in coverage, I see that in most high school games I go to...so the Valley Coaches are keeping up and updating playbooks.

Bring some substance to a tired opinion....

[eyeofthetiger]

So when he goes 2-8 is he going to be reasigned? What a joke! He was not the best qualified individual for the position. Take a look at the list there were applicants who had won state championships. The board president said it himself, "I've known Gilbert my whole life since I coached him in Little League baseball." He's going to be a wonderful leader."
" Cretors said. "I'm very ecstatic right now." I am sure that the board and cretors are delighted to have a little pawn on the board that will not stir the pot.

The only thing that Leal proved, in for real B, in a weak 4a division is nothing, except not holding the kids there accountable. Besides EE who in their division has quality teams year in and year out. Nothing against VV or Roma, but please a spade is a spade.

Leal was one of five finalists including Brownsville Pace head coach Rene Medrano, Rio Hondo offensive coordinator Jesse Landeros, Harlingen South defensive coordinator Pat Inskeep and Harlingen offensive coordinator Spencer Gantt.
It looks like it was home cooking the whole way!!! No outsiders made the final cut....yeah right....I would love to see the open records act on this one and just see how they justified this one. Oh! Steve welcome to the compadre ship a sail.......Just another part of the problem and not the solution....Your titanic is on the horizon.

While I agree with you that a Harlingen product or someone with ties to Harlingen was going to get the job

it worked over at Harlingen....Manny has the job and I think most folks over there are happy with the results so far.....

Leal and Medrano are basically the same guy so the same can be said if he had gotten it....

Landeros & Inskeep are South guys and Gantt is new to Harlingen....

was there other choices of course but I think to some extent the board felt a little burned by Cherry and his up north coaching....

they wanted someone from Harlingen who they felt was a good coach and would be there a while and provide some stability.....

they will know in the next couple of years whether they made the right choice....

[valleyfan]

How is this recycling?

Would a choice of Medrano, Evans, Pena be recylcing?

Bringing old assistants from Harlingen back be recycling?

Bringing Ford back when he left the first time be recycling?

I am unclear on your definition. Recycling to me means bringing the same coach back again. If that is true, then you need to look in the mirror.

Ford has done a great job in Los Fresnos, when Leal and Medrano were in Harlingen as assistants, the Cardinals did well. If you want change by bringing coaches from up North to the Valley, what are you looking for. They all go to the same coaching conventions and get the same ideas from the college head coaches. I would get nervous if coaches don't change with changes in the Game itself. Whether its a Wildcat formation or sending Defensive Ends back in coverage, I see that in most high school games I go to...so the Valley Coaches are keeping up and updating playbooks.

Bring some substance to a tired opinion....


It was a simple case of home cooking!!! bottomline...A person who can be controled.....How do you justify no outside finalist, after you can see one won three state championships..You TESTIFY to that...All the finalist have ties to Harlingen nobody else....
Ford, well take a hard look at the amount of land that is LF...They get their kids just about from lines of Rio Hondo, Arroyo City, Brownsville and San Benito. A huge district, but their time is coming too. I want to see the same results when their district produces what two high schools in approx. 2011.

[valleyfan]

While I agree with you that a Harlingen product or someone with ties to Harlingen was going to get the job

it worked over at Harlingen....Manny has the job and I think most folks over there are happy with the results so far.....

Leal and Medrano are basically the same guy so the same can be said if he had gotten it....

Landeros & Inskeep are South guys and Gantt is new to Harlingen....

was there other choices of course but I think to some extent the board felt a little burned by Cherry and his up north coaching....

they wanted someone from Harlingen who they felt was a good coach and would be there a while and provide some stability.....
The question remains will Leal get reasigned if he goes 2-8 next year?
they will know in the next couple of years whether they made the right choice....



The question remains will Leal get reasigned if he goes 2-8 next year?

[teamfalcon]

How is this recycling?

Would a choice of Medrano, Evans, Pena be recylcing?

Bringing old assistants from Harlingen back be recycling?

Bringing Ford back when he left the first time be recycling?

I am unclear on your definition. Recycling to me means bringing the same coach back again. If that is true, then you need to look in the mirror.

Ford has done a great job in Los Fresnos, when Leal and Medrano were in Harlingen as assistants, the Cardinals did well. If you want change by bringing coaches from up North to the Valley, what are you looking for. They all go to the same coaching conventions and get the same ideas from the college head coaches. I would get nervous if coaches don't change with changes in the Game itself. Whether its a Wildcat formation or sending Defensive Ends back in coverage, I see that in most high school games I go to...so the Valley Coaches are keeping up and updating playbooks.

Bring some substance to a tired opinion....

Would a choice of Medrano, Evans, Pena be recylcing(sic)? YES

Bringing old assistants from Harlingen back be recycling? Not if assistants spent most of their coaching experience outside the valley.

Bringing Ford back when he left the first time be recycling? Please.........

South had a chance to do something special and they blew it.

Gilbert Leal the BEST choice? :lolfall:

Little town politics affecting big town Harlingen.

[eyeofthetiger]

The question remains will Leal get reasigned if he goes 2-8 next year?

If they want to become the next VV yes they will but you would think they would give him a chance to implement his program......

Cherry had problems there even before going 10-0.....

this year just allowed them the excuse they needed.....

[rgvftblnut]

Would a choice of Medrano, Evans, Pena be recylcing(sic)? YES

Bringing old assistants from Harlingen back be recycling? Not if assistants spent most of their coaching experience outside the valley.

Bringing Ford back when he left the first time be recycling? Please.........

South had a chance to do something special and they blew it.

Gilbert Leal the BEST choice? :lolfall:

Little town politics affecting big town Harlingen.

I will save your post, for the time will come when your team has an opportunity to hire a coach. (all jobs come open at some point). When that time comes, feel free to spend your money posting in Dallas, Houston, & Central Texas, to bring someone besides a Valley applicant for your head job.

They had a great pool of applicants and made a choice based on the criteria they felt was right for the school district.

By the way, the guy that won the state championships in TAPPS in Houston, is an alumni from that school. Was that school a homer for brining him back to coach at his alma mater too?

[Ol' Buzzard]

If they want to become the next VV yes they will but you would think they would give him a chance to implement his program......

Cherry had problems there even before going 10-0.....

this year just allowed them the excuse they needed.....

Become the next Valley View? Valley View is the way it is because it is a NEW PROGRAM. IMO, it doesn't matter who the coach is in Valley View, they weren't going to have a winning season, and won't until at least 5 years in existence. ( There are a few exceptions such as Mission Vets and La Joya JL that inherited some decent athletes their early years, but looked what happened to their program afterwards...).

[eyeofthetiger]

Become the next Valley View? Valley View is the way it is because it is a NEW PROGRAM. IMO, it doesn't matter who the coach is in Valley View, they weren't going to have a winning season, and won't until at least 5 years in existence. ( There are a few exceptions such as Mission Vets and La Joya JL that inherited some decent athletes their early years, but looked what happened to their program afterwards...).

I was using them as an example of booting a coach too early and not giving him a chance to implement his program.....

they have done it twice already with Gonzalez & Evans

[teamfalcon]

I will save your post, for the time will come when your team has an opportunity to hire a coach. (all jobs come open at some point). When that time comes, feel free to spend your money posting in Dallas, Houston, & Central Texas, to bring someone besides a Valley applicant for your head job.

They had a great pool of applicants and made a choice based on the criteria they felt was right for the school district.

By the way, the guy that won the state championships in TAPPS in Houston, is an alumni from that school. Was that school a homer for brining him back to coach at his alma mater too?

Yeah........when Ford leaves (this year or in 10 years), do you REALLY think LF is going to hire a 4A coach or a Medrano, Pena? Really?

If you think that, then I could see why you think hiring Leal was a good idea.

They go 1-9 next year.

[eyeofthetiger]

Yeah........when Ford leaves (this year or in 10 years), do you REALLY think LF is going to hire a 4A coach or a Medrano, Pena? Really?

If you think that, then I could see why you think hiring Leal was a good idea.

They go 1-9 next year.

You guys are so full of yourselves its hilarious.....

so now because you are the lf falcons you get to choose your coach and he will be from outside of the valley???????

all good things come to an end but I guess the folks in LF think history is only what has happened the last few years with no regard for what they were in the past......

like alot of folks have said...enjoy your success while it lasts.....

all good things come to an end......

[teamfalcon]

You guys are so full of yourselves its hilarious.....

so now because you are the lf falcons you get to choose your coach and he will be from outside of the valley???????

all good things come to an end but I guess the folks in LF think history is only what has happened the last few years with no regard for what they were in the past......

like alot of folks have said...enjoy your success while it lasts.....

all good things come to an end......

Otro que no entiende.

I could see where you might have gotten confused.

Let me clarify, LF would not hire a 4A coach from the RGV.

[hawkpride]

If they want to become the next VV yes they will but you would think they would give him a chance to implement his program......

Cherry had problems there even before going 10-0.....

this year just allowed them the excuse they needed.....

there's been alot of idiotic crap goin on at south ever since my coach, coach leal, retired. the mere presence of the old ball coach made me wanna go 110%, and when coach spoke, he commanded respect!! after him, our program little by little, just sorta started fallin apart. i'm not goin into who was right or wrong, (administration vs. coach or coach vs. coach), because none of us actually knows what the real deal was. my only thing is that the kids have been the most effected by it. that's the saddest part of this. now, coach gilbert leal is next up on the dock. let's give the man "a fair shake". after 3 yrs, we'll know how the decision went. hopefully, us fans, will be happy down here in hawkland, and the kids will get the coach they deserve.

[Ol' Buzzard]

I was using them as an example of booting a coach too early and not giving him a chance to implement his program.....

they have done it twice already with Gonzalez & Evans

Gonzalez... one year, Evans two years... sure it was a bit early. But like I said, they would have need a minimum of at least 5 years before they would have had their first winning/playoff season. Unlike education/academics, throwing a bunch of money in the athletic department (or in this case, hiring the different coaches) isn't going to produce result as quickly.

[Ol' Buzzard]

I have a feeling that South won't go 1-9 next year. Anybody have a schedule? They dropped some games this year, that I'm sure they will pick up next season.

[eyeofthetiger]

I have a feeling that South won't go 1-9 next year. Anybody have a schedule? They dropped some games this year, that I'm sure they will pick up next season.

they play weslaco:snicker:

[lffalconsrule]

How is this recycling?

Would a choice of Medrano, Evans, Pena be recylcing?

Bringing old assistants from Harlingen back be recycling?

Bringing Ford back when he left the first time be recycling?

I am unclear on your definition. Recycling to me means bringing the same coach back again. If that is true, then you need to look in the mirror.

Ford has done a great job in Los Fresnos, when Leal and Medrano were in Harlingen as assistants, the Cardinals did well. If you want change by bringing coaches from up North to the Valley, what are you looking for. They all go to the same coaching conventions and get the same ideas from the college head coaches. I would get nervous if coaches don't change with changes in the Game itself. Whether its a Wildcat formation or sending Defensive Ends back in coverage, I see that in most high school games I go to...so the Valley Coaches are keeping up and updating playbooks.

Bring some substance to a tired opinion....

I agree. If you don't like who they hired, give some valid reasons why.

[lffalconsrule]

Would a choice of Medrano, Evans, Pena be recylcing(sic)? YES

Bringing old assistants from Harlingen back be recycling? Not if assistants spent most of their coaching experience outside the valley.

Bringing Ford back when he left the first time be recycling? Please.........

South had a chance to do something special and they blew it.

Gilbert Leal the BEST choice? :lolfall:

Little town politics affecting big town Harlingen.

I hate to disagree with a fellow Falcon, but there have been just as many examples of coaches from up north who have failed in the valley as there have been like Coach Ford who have succeeded. Don't forget about guys like Cherry, LeFevre, etc. who weren't very successful. South hired someone who is proud to be from Harlingen and had some success at Mercedes. Coach Leal may not have had the same success at Mercedes that he did as a player and assistant at Harlingen, but he improved the program over there. And when he was the OC at Harlingen, their offenses were pretty unstoppable.

[TigersPride]

Become the next Valley View? Valley View is the way it is because it is a NEW PROGRAM. IMO, it doesn't matter who the coach is in Valley View, they weren't going to have a winning season, and won't until at least 5 years in existence. ( There are a few exceptions such as Mission Vets and La Joya JL that inherited some decent athletes their early years, but looked what happened to their program afterwards...).

You said it yourself Buzzy VV wont have a winning season for at least 5 yrs, well if they keep changing coaches every 2 yrs it will take longer than that. They need to give someone time to implement thier system. I think what Eye is saying is that if you don't give someone more than a yr or two the program will never get turned around. Everyone is so quick to say bring in someone from upstate, but wasn't Cherry from upstate, we all see how that worked out.

[ultraman]

Maybe Leal left because he will have more control over that team and coaches in Harlingen….because in Mercedes i see coaches from back in the 80’s and they got their son’s coaching as well….Mercedes will never change until change is done within.

[rgvproud]

:agree:Agree. Unfortunately I think that in part, it's the ole "brown crab" mentality. Most folks in the Valley have such a negative image even of themselves. For some unexplainable reason, they think that some "guero" from up North, automatically qualifies him as a better coach.

There are just as many good, quality coaches in the Valley as there are anywhere else in the country! Conversely, there are plenty of examples of poor quality coaches which could be found up North.

Most of the the time, the true measure of a coach is how well he can lead his coaching staff in order to teach the athletes to execute. The whole process is dependent on, first of all, having the athletes in place.

Just as Coach Helms is struggling @ Browns. Rivera, so too would Coach Ford most likely struggle @ Valley View. (No offense)

People in the Valley don't realize that they insulting ALL Valley folks when they perpetuate the stigma that we are somehow inferior just because we are from the Valley.

[rgvproud]

Good luck to Coach Gilbert Leal and the Harlingen South Hawks.

[hawkalum]

I wish Leal the best at South but all of the South faithful knows it shouldve been Landeros who got the head coaching job.

He better turn the program back to its winning ways.

[rgvproud]

You have to wonder if this was an inside job... in other words, the whole application process was just for show... they already knew they were intending to hire Leal.

IMO This was most likely what happened the LAST time that this position was open. The Board and its cronies played it out as if to show that they were really looking objectively. When Leal suddenly pulled away, he left the Linda "holding the bag". Much to the chagrin of a very arrogant Board. How dare anyone do this to Harlingen!

Very surprised that they gave him another shot after the fiasco that ensued after he applied, was offered the job, and then suddenly & unexpectedly withdrew, 2 yrs. ago.

[MorristheCat]

Yeah........when Ford leaves (this year or in 10 years), do you REALLY think LF is going to hire a 4A coach or a Medrano, Pena? Really?

If you think that, then I could see why you think hiring Leal was a good idea.

They go 1-9 next year.

In a real roundabout way, you almost diss the kids (in a real roundabout way). I know Coach Ford is a great coach but, he himself, says it....he's in a dream position. Heck, alot of guys could win there (not diminishing what Ford has done). One of 3 5A single high schools in the Valley, numbers (athletes) to choose from, and backing from your high school principal and sup. It's a perfect situation. He's in a perfect situation. When you have the horses.....you can run with the best of them. WHen you don't have the horses, you get Dave Evans in Valley View.

Only time will tell if this was a good fit.

[The Myth, The Legend....]

IMO This was most likely what happened the LAST time that this position was open. The Board and its cronies played it out as if to show that they were really looking objectively. When Leal suddenly pulled away, he left the Linda "holding the bag". Much to the chagrin of a very arrogant Board. How dare anyone do this to Harlingen!

Very surprised that they gave him another shot after the fiasco that ensued after he applied, was offered the job, and then suddenly & unexpectedly withdrew, 2 yrs. ago.



Happens everywhere and with all sports.

[sdrac]

:eek: Man 'o man was I wrong...never imagined the school board would give Gilbert a second chance. Best of luck to him and the Hawks!

[MANIMAL]

LOL....I CALLED THIS ON 11-24 well half of it lets see if other half is true now

[teamfalcon]

In a real roundabout way, you almost diss the kids (in a real roundabout way). I know Coach Ford is a great coach but, he himself, says it....he's in a dream position. Heck, alot of guys could win there (not diminishing what Ford has done). One of 3 5A single high schools in the Valley, numbers (athletes) to choose from, and backing from your high school principal and sup. It's a perfect situation. He's in a perfect situation. When you have the horses.....you can run with the best of them. WHen you don't have the horses, you get Dave Evans in Valley View.

Only time will tell if this was a good fit.

I guess I see your point about the kids, not my intentions, but I'll shut up on my predictions.

[exhawk1997]

Good luck to Coach Gilbert Leal and the Harlingen South Hawks.

thanks

[exhawk1997]

In a real roundabout way, you almost diss the kids (in a real roundabout way). I know Coach Ford is a great coach but, he himself, says it....he's in a dream position. Heck, alot of guys could win there (not diminishing what Ford has done). One of 3 5A single high schools in the Valley, numbers (athletes) to choose from, and backing from your high school principal and sup. It's a perfect situation. He's in a perfect situation. When you have the horses.....you can run with the best of them. WHen you don't have the horses, you get Dave Evans in Valley View.

Only time will tell if this was a good fit.

I hope that Harlingen doesnt build a third high school ever...

[Ol' Buzzard]

I hope that Harlingen doesnt build a third high school ever...

Don't let eyeofthetiger and Mercedes fans hear you say that, they will start preaching that there is more to life than football (i.e. an education). That's what they just say though because they aren't very good at it.

[hawkalum]

I hope that Harlingen doesnt build a third high school ever...

ive heard from serveral teachers within the district that it is currently in talks for a 3rd high school. 1 possible location is by the Treasure Hills/Medical district. But so far it is just talks.

[exhawk1997]

ive heard from serveral teachers within the district that it is currently in talks for a 3rd high school. 1 possible location is by the Treasure Hills/Medical district. But so far it is just talks.

I hope not. They should redraw the district lines. Treasure Hills is where the students go to South. It doesnt make sense. South has one of the lowest enrollments in 5A. They should do that first. Make the North Campus a little smaller by enrollment standards. I dont think Harlingen is growing that much, I dont know, I'm in Austin. I know that when I left, Our population was about 65,000. Has that changed?????

Anyways, I'm for education but I'm for our athletics just a little more.

[Southtex]

HS #3 near Treasure Hills would not work unless they took a BIG number from Harl High also. Maybe that's what they're thinking. I had always heard the school district owned a bunch of property by Harlingen field.

HHS has 2700 and HSH has 2100 last I checked. There's room to grow a bit, but North is going to get too big within 10 years.

[valleyfan]

I hope not. They should redraw the district lines. Treasure Hills is where the students go to South. It doesnt make sense. South has one of the lowest enrollments in 5A. They should do that first. Make the North Campus a little smaller by enrollment standards. I dont think Harlingen is growing that much, I dont know, I'm in Austin. I know that when I left, Our population was about 65,000. Has that changed?????

Anyways, I'm for education but I'm for our athletics just a little more.

According to an article in the vms this week, it is nearlng 70,000. I do not think this number will warrant a third high school.

[exhawk1997]

According to an article in the vms this week, it is nearlng 70,000. I do not think this number will warrant a third high school.

I agree.. Especially from Southtex's post about the enrollments. (2700 harlingen/2100 South)

Unless each school has about 3000 students. then I'm for it..


HS #3 near Treasure Hills would not work unless they took a BIG number from Harl High also. Maybe that's what they're thinking. I had always heard the school district owned a bunch of property by Harlingen field.

HHS has 2700 and HSH has 2100 last I checked. There's room to grow a bit, but North is going to get too big within 10 years.

[exhawk1997]

hows coach leal doing????

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