Mission High -- Head Coach Opening

[Midvalleyftball79]

Lee, reassigned

http://www.rgvsports.com/articles/mission_3534___article.html/rodriguez_season.html

Mission High football coach/athletic coordinator Tom Lee will be reassigned and was informed late Wednesday evening. The decision was reached after a Mission CISD Board of Trustees meeting.

Mission CISD superintendent Oscar Rodriguez, who made the decision to reassign Lee and Longoria, said the district "needed to go in a different direction" with its football teams.

In six seasons leading the Eagles, Lee went 24-36. This season, his team recovered from an 0-4 start to make the playoffs, finishing fourth in District 32-4A.

[hunterbunter]

Santa Claus came early for eagleprophet

[MANIMAL]

ive heard my share of rumors before this all went down (during season) now that this happend maybe it will come true

[eagleprophet]

Santa Claus came early for eagleprophet

ONLY if it Transpires into championships and playoff runs. LOL!!!

[EE61]

Who can get the eagles flying again?

[eagleprophet]

Who can get the eagles flying again?

Anyone heard of any names throwing their names into the hat for the two HC positions in Mission CISD?

[Mr. Twobits]

Anyone heard of any names throwing their names into the hat for the two HC positions in Mission CISD?

yup its between rr and twobits.

[eagleprophet]

yup its between rr and twobits.

A la chingada, lla esta que vamos a ganar ESTATE!!!!:frolic::frolic::frolic::frolic:

[Ol' Buzzard]

yup its between rr and twobits.

Those guys couldn't win in Mercedes, what makes you think they can do any better in Mission?

[hunterbunter]

agui-agui-agui-tan-sen

[panthercrazy]

:dance::dance::dance::dance:

[eagleprophet]

Hopefully after we find out who the new coach at MHS is gonna be i'll be dancing, too!!:dance::dance::dance:

Pero llo voy hacer la "MOONWALK" baby!!!

Y luego tambien el Rogger Rabbit and the RUNNING MAN!!!

[davi34]

Mission needs to look outside of the valley if they want to get back to the glory days. A good passing game needs to be implemented into that program if they will ever make a run in the playoffs again. look at history how many running teams from mission made runs in the playoffs. Um None.

Landry Era - Balanced
Rodriguez, Valdez, Hernandez Era - Pass
Detmer Era - Only Pass (Koy still holds the state record for most pass attempts in a game)
Coach dicuss E. Taylor Era - Pass

Mission needs to get smart and not let politics decide this

[EaglePower]

Especially with the pretty good receivers we have and Gilbert's passing ability.

[davi34]

exactly gilbert has the tools to be one of the valleys best and most of the recievers will be coming into their third year as starters

Glad u see it the right way eagle power at least somebody in Mission knows something

[EaglePower]

exactly gilbert has the tools to be one of the valleys best and most of the recievers will be coming into their third year as starters

Glad u see it the right way eagle power at least somebody in Mission knows something

I should know a little about these guys since they're team mates.:D Gilbert is definitely a good player, double threat. He can run and pass, both of which he's pretty good at. Hopefully, we get someone who won't let all this talent go to waste.

[davi34]

Then we both know what is going on. i am a student at MHS as well

[Ol' Buzzard]

If you all are insiders... then give us the scoop!

[davi34]

no real word on who the new coach is gonna be i am just praying they bring i somebody who can win

[Ol' Buzzard]

no real word on who the new coach is gonna be i am just praying they bring i somebody who can win

That's a loaded statement...

[davi34]

well honestly ol'buzz do u think anybody from the valley can do it

[Ol' Buzzard]

well honestly ol'buzz do u think anybody from the valley can do it

It depends if you're talking about winning district or winning a state title...

In either case, what you are looking for is going to come with just a new head coach. It will only come from a paradigm shift within the athletic program. (This of course requires the cooperation and combined effort of the school board, administration, athletes, and finally the head coach and his staff. )

When I say paradigm shift, i'm talking about a change in the attitude, beliefs, work habits, and so on of the team from the high-school all the way through the jr. high levels. Then and only then will a team develop a winning tradition.

[davi34]

yea i comletely agree with that statement. but with the team the eagles have coming back i think a pass happy coach is what they need somebody opposite of most of these valley coaches who believe in three yards and a cloud of dust type of running game

[Ol' Buzzard]

yea i comletely agree with that statement. but with the team the eagles have coming back i think a pass happy coach is what they need somebody opposite of most of these valley coaches who believe in three yards and a cloud of dust type of running game

If the coach is any good and has the least bit of smarts, he will realize what he has going for him (with his current athletes) and make the appropriate changes to accommodate his system.

But, I see your point about old school coaches that don't believe in change.

[davi34]

yea well we will all just have to wait and see what happens

by the way what if anu names have u heard thrown out there

[Ol' Buzzard]

yea well we will all just have to wait and see what happens

by the way what if anu names have u heard thrown out there

True...

names... im just as clueless as the next guy.

[davi34]

so are u from mission OB or just a major valley sports buff

[Ol' Buzzard]

so are u from mission OB or just a major valley sports buff

Me... nope. I hail from Edcouch-Elsa. But, I like to follow all of 32-4a.

[eagleprophet]

I'm from Mission and I keep hearing 3 names being thrown out like if all three were getting the job. I prefer one over the others by a landslide if it were an election, but that is just me. The one guy I prefer is going to apply and that was told to me by one of his relatives in M town. I don't like to talk about names until I officially see the actual list of applicants in writing and even then, they can always pull their name out in the middle of the whole process.

But trust me, you guys will get a coach who will take what Tom Lee had there with the talent and he should be able to make the playoffs and potentially a 2 or 3 deep run.

Hey, somebody told me Gilbert Is playing basketball on the JV team. Is this true, if so, that should help him be a better runner to make cuts with more agression.

[EaglePower]

When is the district opening the spot anyways? I heard it still wasn't open to apply.

[Ol' Buzzard]

When is the district opening the spot anyways? I heard it still wasn't open to apply.

Guess they all applied @ Harlingen South only... :(

[EaglePower]

Guess they all applied @ Harlingen South only... :(

:snicker:
They can't apply, as far as I know it is still closed.

[eagleprophet]

When is the district opening the spot anyways? I heard it still wasn't open to apply.

WHat's up Eagle Power? What are you maxing on bench and squat right now?

[EaglePower]

WHat's up Eagle Power? What are you maxing on bench and squat right now?

Check your pm. :p

[Ol' Buzzard]

Check your pm. :p

Are your maxes that bad that you don't want to share them for all to see?

[EaglePower]

Are your maxes that bad that you don't want to share them for all to see?

No I'm just sharing other info with EP. :D

[MANIMAL]

well my "hear say" have been right so far

[EaglePower]

And what is that Manimal? :D

[eagleprophet]

And what is that Manimal? :D

It's pretty much the ones I think are interested in the mix. Wow a 10-0 JV and the speedsters at the skill positions coming back is a good gig for anyone to go after.

Whoever gets the job should be expected to contend for district and make at least a 2 deep run into the playoffs.

[EaglePower]

EP!!! Tell me where you work!! :D:D :argh:

[eagleprophet]

EP!!! Tell me where you work!! :D:D :argh:

Yo EPOWER, check ur PMs dawg!!

[EaglePower]

:handball:Man, has the district even opened the position yet? Taking forever.

[Ol' Buzzard]

:handball:Man, has the district even opened the position yet? Taking forever.

So is Coach LEE still around or is he gone already? Who is running the off-season @ High? The assistants?

[EaglePower]

The other coaches are running the off season. Coach Lee drops by every once in a while.

[Ol' Buzzard]

The other coaches are running the off season. Coach Lee drops by every once in a while.

Does he seem aguitado? This upcoming season is supposed to be a good year for Mission High... and somebody else is going to get the credit. :doh:

[EaglePower]

He probably is, haven't had a chance to talk to him

[Ol' Buzzard]

Well... I remember people were questioning his appointment when he first got hired... I wonder if the same will happen to the new coach.

[EaglePower]

Wonder what's taking the district so long to open the position though :handball:

[Ol' Buzzard]

Wonder what's taking the district so long to open the position though :handball:

They are already digging the grave for the new coach... impeding upon his potential success by delaying so long.

[EaglePower]

Any time this year would be nice. :handball:

[Ol' Buzzard]

Any time this year would be nice. :handball:

They are probably waiting for Har. South to pick their coach so that way the can have a larger pool of potential candidates.

[EaglePower]

Well by the time they open the spot everyone's gonna be gone. :batman: :handball: )

[Ol' Buzzard]

Looks like Har. South has a new coach... i'm sure Mission ISD will not begin their search.

[EaglePower]

Just hope they don't wait till all other 324A schools find their coach. :moody:

[eagleprophet]

Well now the Mercede position became open. I somehow knew that Leal would wind up in Harlingen South. I was telling Redfish that he would certainly be at least a top 3 finalist, but since things didn't boad well in the end there and the UIL fiasco he wound up in.

Now the two Mission Ex Coaches should throw their names into the Mercedes position. Should be considered since they both know this district and the competition quite well.

[EaglePower]

Hurry up mcisd. :handball:

[Southtex]

Hurry up mcisd. :handball:

What are the chances Mercedes will hire a new coach before Mission?? That would be a tough one for Mission...unless of course they hire one of the 2 let go (which I don't see happening).

Better get on board quick! The pool of applicants is what it isn't going to change much between now and September now that the firings are pretty much done (Hidalgo, South, Missions).

[EaglePower]

What are the chances Mercedes will hire a new coach before Mission?? That would be a tough one for Mission...unless of course they hire one of the 2 let go (which I don't see happening).

Better get on board quick! The pool of applicants is what it isn't going to change much between now and September now that the firings are pretty much done (Hidalgo, South, Missions).

I'm hoping they really do open the spot quick. The longer the wait the worse it will be. It's been almost a month since the firing happened, and while I wasn't expecting them to hire someone new right away, they still even haven't opened the spot. :handball:

[Rawr06]

Are they looking at promoting from within maybe? :hmmm:

[eagleprophet]

Are they looking at promoting from within maybe? :hmmm:

That's ingenious Rawr!!! You may be onto something big right there my friend!!!


Things that make me go HMM??:batman: :batman: :batman:

[davi34]

i really dont know if that would be best but i can deffinately see that happrning with a few coaches. :batman:

[eagleprophet]

i really dont know if that would be best but i can deffinately see that happrning with a few coaches. :batman:

Which ones? Jones and Pherson? I hear they're pretty hard workers over there!

[davi34]

Yea those are deffinately two names who can be thrown into the mix. Personally Maubry the Freshman head coach. He led the up and coming seniors of 2010, 10-0 their freshman year he knows what he is doing but i dont know if he will be applying

[eagleprophet]

Yea those are deffinately two names who can be thrown into the mix. Personally Maubry the Freshman head coach. He led the up and coming seniors of 2010, 10-0 their freshman year he knows what he is doing but i dont know if he will be applying

Coach Moubry??? Someone was telling me he had applied at the LJ ISD for their HC positions when they were opened up. Don't know a thing about that coach other than that. What did he coach this year on the varsity level? Any clues.

[TexasFlawless66]

I dont think moubry would be able to handle head coaching a varsity team. apenas aguantaba when i was in wrestling. But still coach Lee was a good coach just none of the players ever got the heads out of their as$ and buckled down like in my grad class

[TexasFlawless66]

oh and whats up EP. finally made it onto this forum... David checking in :dance:

[ThisDUDE]

Welcome back :dance:

Or atleast you notice some familiar names..

[eagleprophet]

oh and whats up EP. finally made it onto this forum... David checking in :dance:

Hey what u bin up 2 Flawless!!! Still at Tmobile?

[EaglePower]

Spot opened, go crazy!:pop:

[Rawr06]

Spot opened, go crazy!:pop:

Any candidates yet?

[eagleprophet]

Any candidates yet?

Well there is a new thread that SB just opened their HC position, I think? Maybe Pena will apply over here afterall.

[EaglePower]

Well there is a new thread that SB just opened their HC position, I think? Maybe Pena will apply over here afterall.

:pop:

[TheEagle440]

Predictions?
Pena, Casas.............:bury::nopity:

[Southtex]

Cherry from Hgn South is probably looking for a job about now. No one really talks about him much...

[TexasFlawless66]

Hey what u bin up 2 Flawless!!! Still at Tmobile?

yessir. starting my own auto accessory business though.

[eagleprophet]

Well when you get that going be sure to text or call me. I'm needing the bedliner trims on my Truck. The sun has already made them fade badly and it makes my truck look older than what it really is. Hey Pena just got the Heck out of San Benito. Wonder why?? THings that make you go :hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

[Ol' Buzzard]

A lot names being thrown out for the picking!

[TheEagle440]

I already hear its predetermined lots of pressure from some of the board members. See you back here in 3-5 seasons. Same old compadre stuff going on. When Mission is back in this situation again those few board members who put these guys in should pack up and leave with them. I sure hope they seriously listen to other candidates and help these kids get someone who they will want to play for.

[eagleprophet]

I already hear its predetermined lots of pressure from some of the board members. See you back here in 3-5 seasons. Same old compadre stuff going on. When Mission is back in this situation again those few board members who put these guys in should pack up and leave with them. I sure hope they seriously listen to other candidates and help these kids get someone who they will want to play for.

Dang you sound mad. What name did you hear? Just really curious now!!

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

Hopefully the board will have nothing to do with it and philosophy, playbook, and player relation skills will determine the successors at both Mission Schools. Mission has made some horrible decisions but that is more the reason for them not to hire recycled coaches. They will be more careful this time......Maybe! Eagle440 are you saying Pena is a shoe in? Casas from LJ?

[eagleprophet]

Hopefully the board will have nothing to do with it and philosophy, playbook, and player relation skills will determine the successors at both Mission Schools. Mission has made some horrible decisions but that is more the reason for them not to hire recycled coaches. They will be more careful this time......Maybe! Eagle440 are you saying Pena is a shoe in? Casas from LJ?

Well I'm gonna say it. I don't want Casas to be the guy at either of our schools. He left a good situation here to go for greener pastures at LJ and then he wants to return for a lower position than what he already had. It'll just look weird in my eye, but you just never know.

No, please not Casas.

[TheEagle440]

Yes 4wide! But I am praying for AD intervention. I felt sick when we hired Cavazos but even then, they had a legitimate excuse, he had taken over at EE and they had a good record because of "the kids". There is no excuse this time. I hope not. I'll be depressed for another 3-6 years. I miss a packed Tom Landry Stadium. I miss watching the ball fly through the air. I miss Koy, Lupe, Nati, Frank, Jamaar, and Earvin. :cry:

[eagleprophet]

Yes 4wide! But I am praying for AD intervention. I felt sick when we hired Cavazos but even then, they had a legitimate excuse, he had taken over at EE and they had a good record because of "the kids". There is no excuse this time. I hope not. I'll be depressed for another 3-6 years. I miss a packed Tom Landry Stadium. I miss watching the ball fly through the air. I miss Koy, Lupe, Nati, Frank, Jamaar, and Earvin. :cry:


If you want the ball in the air, maybe the Harlingen OC is the guy you want. I hear his offenses are aerial attack by nature. Hopefully your wishes are granted and a pass 1st scheme and run on occasion offense will come back to Mission.

[Southtex]

If you want the ball in the air, maybe the Harlingen OC is the guy you want. I hear his offenses are aerial attack by nature. Hopefully your wishes are granted and a pass 1st scheme and run on occasion offense will come back to Mission.

Gantt would be perfect for Mission. Offensive guy in an offensive minded school. Time will tell...

[TheEagle440]

I think it just suits us better. Spread em out and let the air show begin.

[TheEagle440]

Well I'm gonna say it. I don't want Casas to be the guy at either of our schools. He left a good situation here to go for greener pastures at LJ and then he wants to return for a lower position than what he already had. It'll just look weird in my eye, but you just never know.

No, please not Casas.

Agreed. :puke:But I'm sorry All Mighty Prophet my crystal ball tells me we will both be saddened. Hopefully at Vets though. Not at MIGHTY MISSION HIGH> RETURN TO GLORY!........please

[EaglePower]

:handball:

[eagleprophet]

:handball:

Well they're gonna open the positions until Jan. 27 for submission of applications. I got a text message today that a certain person is going to come back to Mission "according to word"!!

The board will look for the best qualified and most successful guy in mind that would do well with our student athletes. We'll see what we both get in Mcisd.

[TheEagle440]

Only guys I'd be excited about coming back are Detmer, Rodriguez, or Taylor. Anyone else "coming back" don't have what it takes to get kids excited about playing. If they look at other candidates they had better be motivators, likable, and knowledgable. You also gotta be able to say "Mission" not "Mitchen"!:mad2:

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

Only guys I'd be excited about coming back are Detmer, Rodriguez, or Taylor. Anyone else "coming back" don't have what it takes to get kids excited about playing. If they look at other candidates they had better be motivators, likable, and knowledgable. You also gotta be able to say "Mission" not "Mitchen"!:mad2:

lol "Mitchen Eagles"..... Spoke to Taylor at BJ's a week ago, very sharp guy, he almost had me wanting to tackle the waiter ha! I asked him about the Mitchen job and he said it would be a nice job to have. I could see him at the helm of some program soon. He worked with my son three seasons ago for a summerlong strength and conditioning program. He had my kid working out with Bradley Stephens, the Granchelli brothers, and ex EE QB Rubio. My son said they were pushed to the limit.

[davi34]

That would be a very interesting choice in Mission imagine the work Taylor could do with the already established WR core in Mission i can see that working out really well for the Eagles:handball:

[TheEagle440]

Yeah I think that would blow Mission High's football marketing up for the youth here! Imagine the excitement that would start. Only thing is Taylor doesn't have head coaching experience (not saying he couldn't do job), and these people want experience...i.e "you have to lose 60% of your games to have "experience"?"
Hey 4Wide, what else did he say?

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

He's at LJ now. Said he was relegated to being the WR coach solely. I asked if he implemented any offensive plays, but he said no one never asked that of him at LJ. He said its been tough there with the 3 way split and that this situation has made him a better coach. He told me his kids didn't even know what simple coverages were when he got there. Also said he'd run a program under a collegiate schedule, told me Detmer and Dicus both ran their programs under such a schedule. I also didn't know he had been under Urban Meyer at Notre Dame, he also said he keeps contact with his ex WR coach at A&M (now Houston Cougar Head Coach) Kevin Sumlin. He seems greatful to have been blessed to be influenced and taught by some great coaches, (Detmer, Urban Meyer (current Florida coach), Sumlin (Houston) , R.C Slocum, Tom Coughlin, and Kevin Gilbride (NY Giants OC). If Eagle440 is right then this Mission job is sewn up for Pena, but Taylor would have been an interesting pick or consideration. Wish we had room at McHi for him.

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

What kind of offense was Lee running Eagle440? Pass %, Run %. 3 wide receivers, 4 wide receivers, pro?

[straightup]

He's at LJ now. Said he was relegated to being the WR coach solely. I asked if he implemented any offensive plays, but he said no one never asked that of him at LJ. He said its been tough there with the 3 way split and that this situation has made him a better coach. He told me his kids didn't even know what simple coverages were when he got there. Also said he'd run a program under a collegiate schedule, told me Detmer and Dicus both ran their programs under such a schedule. I also didn't know he had been under Urban Meyer at Notre Dame, he also said he keeps contact with his ex WR coach at A&M (now Houston Cougar Head Coach) Kevin Sumlin. He seems greatful to have been blessed to be influenced and taught by some great coaches, (Detmer, Urban Meyer (current Florida coach), Sumlin (Houston) , R.C Slocum, Tom Coughlin, and Kevin Gilbride (NY Giants OC). If Eagle440 is right then this Mission job is sewn up for Pena, but Taylor would have been an interesting pick or consideration. Wish we had room at McHi for him.

LJ rec. were not very good - i know their scheme wasn't pass friendly, but the rec. techniques were awful - why would mchi want him

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

It was his first season and lets be honest....LJ doesn't have the talent. All I remember is that they never did a drop back pass. I think vs us they were bootlegging the entire time, the wide receivers were non-existant because we just zone blitzed the hell out of them and QB was running for his life whole game. The guy knows his stuff. Normal people or coaches will never get the amount of knowledge he's gotten from the QUALITY of coaches he's been around. He had to start somewhere, anywhere I guess....since his last name isn't Garza and he has NO beer belly I'm positive he has no compadre skills.

[TheEagle440]

What kind of offense was Lee running Eagle440? Pass %, Run %. 3 wide receivers, 4 wide receivers, pro?

I think it was the cluster****!

[EagleMaximus24]

What kind of offense was Lee running Eagle440? Pass %, Run %. 3 wide receivers, 4 wide receivers, pro?

LOL Lee never had an offense to begin with.

[EaglePower]

Well they're gonna open the positions until Jan. 27 for submission of applications. I got a text message today that a certain person is going to come back to Mission "according to word"!!

The board will look for the best qualified and most successful guy in mind that would do well with our student athletes. We'll see what we both get in Mcisd.

Who's this person? :batman::handball:

[gohorns]

first you say he would be a fantastic pick to run the mission program...not just take part in improving it...but RUNNING it...and now you make an excuse for his recievers not running good routes by saying "it was his first year!" Man are you confused.

[Ol' Buzzard]

LOL Lee never had an offense to begin with.

What do you mean?

[EagleMaximus24]

What I mean is he never had an offense to begin with. I hope that helps.

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

? It was his first year there, NO? YESSSS. Now, let me put it in KiDdIe SkriBbLe so you can understand.....Their passing game provides very little success because they "roll out" every pass...So....its very hard to get open when the defense knows you are limited pattern wise with a roll out....Following along? Don't want to lose you...K, A QB rolling to either right or left side is now relegated to throwing to that side...K, So there are only certain routes that can be run because there is NO backside as in a normal dropback, Thus THEY HAD NO CHANCE. The guy does a good job, he's had to get in somewhere...ANYWHERE. ABC 123 GOOOOOD BOY!

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

straight up and gohorns are same person! Who do you think should be at Mission? What about Veterans Memorial? and pardon our "opinions" they are just that. Like I said they want below .500 coaches with experience!

[TheEagle440]

Hopefully they just make a good decision. At the end of the day we all (Mission fans) want to see our kids enjoying the game. Get someone who inspires and motivates, knows their football, and things will fall into place. I guess I'll have no choice but to support whoever. I'm a season ticket holder.

[straightup]

straight up and gohorns are same person! Who do you think should be at Mission? What about Veterans Memorial? and pardon our "opinions" they are just that. Like I said they want below .500 coaches with experience!

gohorns and i are not the same person. mission just needs to get somebody who would be the best fit for that program. i do agree that too many jobs down here are based on the compadre system and not what is best for the school - find a good experienced coach, an energitic coach, a person with good people skills, and make a list of the pros and cons - THEN decide what is best. mission just needs to make up their mind what direction they want their programs to go

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

I agree with you completely.

[EaglePower]

:frolic: 7 days till they close the spot. I wonder who has applied. :frolic:

[eagleprophet]

:frolic: 7 days till they close the spot. I wonder who has applied. :frolic:

Well I applied!!!:rock: :rock:

LOL!! Some joker on the "OTHER" Forum "claims" I would be best suited for the job cuz I own all the Madden games. SSSHHHHSSHH!! That just cracked me up. The kind of crapola being posted over there.

[EaglePower]

:woot: State title under EP for sure! :rock:

[TheEagle440]

Hey Madden is pretty realistic now! Haha. When are we all gonna learn.....It's who you know! If its not someone who knows how to put the dang ball in the air i'm gonna be sick....but...I will still support our guys. I supported our troops and they had been led by a moron for 8 years. Luckily contracts usually only last 5.

[Ol' Buzzard]

? It was his first year there, NO? YESSSS. Now, let me put it in KiDdIe SkriBbLe so you can understand.....Their passing game provides very little success because they "roll out" every pass...So....its very hard to get open when the defense knows you are limited pattern wise with a roll out....Following along? Don't want to lose you...K, A QB rolling to either right or left side is now relegated to throwing to that side...K, So there are only certain routes that can be run because there is NO backside as in a normal dropback, Thus THEY HAD NO CHANCE. The guy does a good job, he's had to get in somewhere...ANYWHERE. ABC 123 GOOOOOD BOY!

I seriously hope that idiotic response was not directed towards me.

[EaglePower]

I seriously hope that idiotic response was not directed towards me.

He was talking to someone else from the previous page, I think.

[eagleprophet]

I seriously hope that idiotic response was not directed towards me.

Buzzy gettin hot under the collar!!!

[Ol' Buzzard]

Buzzy gettin hot under the collar!!!


He was talking to someone else from the previous page, I think.

I asked a legit question, and if that's his response... well, that' ain't right!

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

He's at LJ now. Said he was relegated to being the WR coach solely. I asked if he implemented any offensive plays, but he said no one never asked that of him at LJ. He said its been tough there with the 3 way split and that this situation has made him a better coach. He told me his kids didn't even know what simple coverages were when he got there. Also said he'd run a program under a collegiate schedule, told me Detmer and Dicus both ran their programs under such a schedule. I also didn't know he had been under Urban Meyer at Notre Dame, he also said he keeps contact with his ex WR coach at A&M (now Houston Cougar Head Coach) Kevin Sumlin. He seems greatful to have been blessed to be influenced and taught by some great coaches, (Detmer, Urban Meyer (current Florida coach), Sumlin (Houston) , R.C Slocum, Tom Coughlin, and Kevin Gilbride (NY Giants OC). If Eagle440 is right then this Mission job is sewn up for Pena, but Taylor would have been an interesting pick or consideration. Wish we had room at McHi for him.

GO HORNS WROTE
01-19-2009, 08:42 PM #100
gohorns
Junior Varsity
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"first you say he would be a fantastic pick to run the mission program...not just take part in improving it...but RUNNING it...and now you make an excuse for his recievers not running good routes by saying "it was his first year!" Man are you confused. "

-gohorns

*That wasn't for the buzz man!, you make sense most of time.

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

? It was his first year there, NO? YESSSS. Now, let me put it in KiDdIe SkriBbLe so you can understand.....Their passing game provides very little success because they "roll out" every pass...So....its very hard to get open when the defense knows you are limited pattern wise with a roll out....Following along? Don't want to lose you...K, A QB rolling to either right or left side is now relegated to throwing to that side...K, So there are only certain routes that can be run because there is NO backside as in a normal dropback, Thus THEY HAD NO CHANCE. The guy does a good job, he's had to get in somewhere...ANYWHERE. ABC 123 GOOOOOD BOY!

this was my eeeevil response!

[4WIDEISTHEFUTURE]

I seriously hope that idiotic response was not directed towards me.

it wasn't idiotic??? it was eeeeeevil? haha. I say "PUT THE MIRROR TO THEIR FACE"

[Firethatburnswithin]

:frolic: 7 days till they close the spot. I wonder who has applied. :frolic:

It really doesn't matter whose applied. These 2 jobs are in the bag already!! All this bs about applying and "GREAT NAMES" applied is to go through the motions. :handball:

[TheEagle440]

Do you all think the Mission job is a 10 year project? Meaning...Will it take two staffs to get things back to speed?

If its in the bag who's brother's in law, cousin, daddy, or son is gonna help the decision maker's (AD, Board, etc.) regain some credibility when hiring head football coaches? Who at Vets?

We sit here and blame these coaches its not their fault.....blame the one's who make premature selections and under table dealings.

[Ol' Buzzard]

GO HORNS WROTE
01-19-2009, 08:42 PM #100
gohorns
Junior Varsity
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"first you say he would be a fantastic pick to run the mission program...not just take part in improving it...but RUNNING it...and now you make an excuse for his recievers not running good routes by saying "it was his first year!" Man are you confused. "

-gohorns

*That wasn't for the buzz man!, you make sense most of time.


this was my eeeevil response!


What do you mean?


it wasn't idiotic??? it was eeeeeevil? haha. I say "PUT THE MIRROR TO THEIR FACE"

10-4...

Once again, one of the flaws of technology, subtle hints such as tone of voice cannot be picked up. What I precieved to be idiotic was actual sarcasm.

[EaglePower]

It really doesn't matter whose applied. These 2 jobs are in the bag already!! All this bs about applying and "GREAT NAMES" applied is to go through the motions.
:handball::(

[davi34]

so who is all set up with the job

[EagleMaximus24]

Buzzy gettin hot under the collar!!!

I think its because he's no longer high score champion anymore. Sorry buzzy i just had to beat you on Capture the Flag.

[eagleprophet]

I think its because he's no longer high score champion anymore. Sorry buzzy i just had to beat you on Capture the Flag.

Hey Maximus, long time no post. Good to see ya!!

[TheEagle440]

so who is all set up with the job

Hire me......I'm qualified!

http://http://www.burnthefatblog.com/beer_belly_220.jpg

[TheEagle440]

Hire me......I'm qualified!

http://www.burnthefatblog.com/beer_belly_220.jpg

I hope it worked this time. Had a qualified guy on the picture.

[EaglePower]

so who is all set up with the job

Davi get off the computer during school dude. :snicker::handball:

[eagleprophet]

Davi get off the computer during school dude. :snicker::handball:

I'm gonna tell Mrs. Connelly!! LOL!!! It's good to see so many Eagles out here. Keep it rollin'

[EagleMaximus24]

Hey Maximus, long time no post. Good to see ya!!

Whats up prophet just here trying to get some info on the new eagles head coach for my brother.

[EaglePower]

I'm gonna tell Mrs. Connelly!! LOL!!! It's good to see so many Eagles out here. Keep it rollin'

:frolic:

[Ol' Buzzard]

I think its because he's no longer high score champion anymore. Sorry buzzy i just had to beat you on Capture the Flag.

:fire: I saw that... How the flip did you get 1700pts? I won't even try to match that! :bow:

[EaglePower]

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3757/whargarblaa3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[EagleMaximus24]

:fire: I saw that... How the flip did you get 1700pts? I won't even try to match that! :bow:

I trained hard my friend sort of like how rocky trained forr the fight against Ivan Drago. I even had a picture of your avatar on my CPU monitor along with the Rocky music.

IwvoTDoO9Hg

[Ol' Buzzard]

I trained hard my friend sort of like how rocky trained forr the fight against Ivan Drago. I even had a picture of your avatar on my CPU monitor along with the Rocky music.

IwvoTDoO9Hg

Secret training method NOTED!

Your record is going DOWN!

[EaglePower]

Hm, so in the coming two weeks this should be done, I think. The spot closes next week. :handball:

[eagleprophet]

Well Mission is closing the application acceptance process on Tuesday, January 27, 2009. I am wondering if they are going to make public the total list of applicants for both Mission and Veterans Memorial like they did with Harlingen South and Hidalgo. I hope the VFNs provide those lists in their Wednesday issues.

[EaglePower]

So any news EP? :D

[eagleprophet]

No there is nothing new to report other than what both you and I already have heard. They close out on Tuesday so hopefully the list is made public so we can at least make take a guess at the potential new HC.

In Hidalgo, I predict its gonna be Carlos Longoria or the Coach that's been to the state title game with the private schools.

[EaglePower]

:handball: 2 days until they close the spot.:batman: New coach by next week?

[eagleprophet]

2morrow they close out the app acceptance and then, WATCH OUT!!! The rumors will hit the fan!!!

[EagleMaximus24]

i just hope my app got accepted. cross your fingers:o

[eyeofthetiger]

i just hope my app got accepted. cross your fingers:o

If your last name is Casas or Pena, don't worry they got it...:lolup:

[EagleMaximus24]

chucks maybe next time. i hope my app for water boy is accepted cross your fingers guys.

[EaglePower]

Don't give up Maximus. :(

[eagleprophet]

chucks maybe next time. i hope my app for water boy is accepted cross your fingers guys.

Don't worry Maximus. I got your back on dat one. You're in as long as you promise to give us iced, cool, refreshing water that quenches the thirst of a youngblood running in the hot sun!!!

[EaglePower]

Don't worry Maximus. I got your back on dat one. You're in as long as you promise to give us iced, cool, refreshing water that quenches the thirst of a youngblood running in the hot sun!!!

Drinking cool water during those extremely hot practices felt so awesome. :batman: Don't let us down Maximus!:D

[eagleprophet]

Drinking cool water during those extremely hot practices felt so awesome. :batman: Don't let us down Maximus!:D

They say the temperatures are gonna get to 115 in the summer so MAXIMUS better do a good job. Or si no, he'll be hearing this "YOU"RE FIRED"!!!

[EaglePower]

From who! Everyone is gonna die from the heat. :woot::bury: and the practice field is going to turn into a desert. :tumbleweed:

[eagleprophet]

From who! Everyone is gonna die from the heat. :woot::bury: and the practice field is going to turn into a desert. :tumbleweed:

Just kidding PWR!!!

[EaglePower]

:snicker: The weather is so weird down here. Like two weeks ago when we went out to do stations it was really cold. As soon as we were done and going back to the field house it was hot. :(

[eagleprophet]

:snicker: The weather is so weird down here. Like two weeks ago when we went out to do stations it was really cold. As soon as we were done and going back to the field house it was hot. :(

What are stations??? I thought you were gonna say you were at the San Juan Shrine doing the Stations of the Cross and you got cold out there!!!

[EaglePower]

Basically just different drills to help us get better.

[eagleprophet]

Basically just different drills to help us get better.

Is Pherson the one in charge right now? How many guys are out there right now?

[EaglePower]

Yeah he is basically. And do you mean how many coaches are there?

[eagleprophet]

Yeah he is basically. And do you mean how many coaches are there?

Players, of course. If Pherson is in charge right now, then he will still be here next year. I think he's a pretty good coach and person. Just IMO.

[EaglePower]

I agree, Pherson is a great person and is always pretty much dedicating his time to making us better. We still have most players, I don't think we've really lost any. Anyways, here is a present EP. :D
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3310/eaglesue5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[eagleprophet]

I agree, Pherson is a great person and is always pretty much dedicating his time to making us better. We still have most players, I don't think we've really lost any. Anyways, here is a present EP. :D
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3310/eaglesue5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That is awesome!!! Can you believe they wanted to bring that Eagle down when the school was split.

I remember when that Iron Eagle was in the Parade in 1990 or 1989 as a gift to the school from the Touchdown Club.

[EaglePower]

Vets need their own stadium. :D They gotta stop using ours! :frolic: It'd be pretty stupid to bring down the eagle though.

[eagleprophet]

They can't get a stadium of their own because we as a district cannot afford it.

And about the Eagle, I would start the world's largets petition and squash their efforts.

Did you know that the new scoreboard should be going up pretty soon. I read the board minutes/highlights the other day and it could start in May and for sure in the summer to be ready for the season. It'd be cool if they had it ready for Graduation to give it a test run of some sort.

[EaglePower]

I didn't even know about a new scoreboard. :(

[EagleMaximus24]

Man i just found out i wasnt accepted for the water boy position something about needing 1 yr experience chale. I heard something about that Prophet how they wanted to take the eagle down cause the patriots didnt have one of their own. I heard a rumor that the Patriots were saving money so they could have a patriot statue but this was a while back i dont see it happening . im liking the turn out of eagle fans on this forum i know last year it was just Flawless,Prophet and myself competing with all the E-E and Mercedes fan. I just hope we could get some more when football season comes up.

[eagleprophet]

Man i just found out i wasnt accepted for the water boy position something about needing 1 yr experience chale. I heard something about that Prophet how they wanted to take the eagle down cause the patriots didnt have one of their own. I heard a rumor that the Patriots were saving money so they could have a patriot statue but this was a while back i dont see it happening . im liking the turn out of eagle fans on this forum i know last year it was just Flawless,Prophet and myself competing with all the E-E and Mercedes fan. I just hope we could get some more when football season comes up.

Yep there's more. Jumphook just got on the other day too.

[MANIMAL]

this job aswell as Vets job has already been decided

[eyeofthetiger]

this job aswell as Vets job has already been decided

everybody keeps saying that.....

so is it Pena & casas

[EagleMaximus24]

do we have to beg to see who got hired.

[EaglePower]

this job aswell as Vets job has already been decided

So who's going to which school?

[eagleprophet]

It's official. Mario Pena has put in his application for both spots Eagles/Patriots. This just in from Dave Brown on Channel 5 Sports Report at 10.

[EaglePower]

Any other names?

[eagleprophet]

Any other names?

I don't know that the list has been made public. They should do as Hidalgo and Harlingen South did, disclose all the applicants so that people can get a look at it, too.

[Firethatburnswithin]

Any other names?

:batman:

[Rawr06]

Are they going to release the list of applicants?

[RR RATED]

I heard a name that was listing, but i wouldn't know why he would make that move.....:snicker:

[Rawr06]

Are you talking about the man whose name ends in OLIS? :D

[Firethatburnswithin]

I heard a name that was listing, but i wouldn't know why he would make that move.....:snicker:

I DO....;)

[fine wine]

46 applicants. 3 at mv only, 3 at mhs only, 40 at both schools...next thursday is d day.

[Eagle Nation]

46 applicants. 3 at mv only, 3 at mhs only, 40 at both schools...next thursday is d day.

Is there a list?

[ADB31]

There is a list....

some impressive names on it... and of course the obvious ones are there too...

I'll post the list after the 9pm news here.. but I am sure Themonitor or Jake will post it before then

[EaglePower]

:pop::pop:

[eagleprophet]

There is a list....

some impressive names on it... and of course the obvious ones are there too...

I'll post the list after the 9pm news here.. but I am sure Themonitor or Jake will post it before then

Hey Alex!! How's your bro and sis? Please post the list when you do get it.

[ADB31]

They are well.. thanks for asking...bro just welcomed his daughter into the world couple weeks back..


As for the list... I have it...but I want to hold off until I have everyone identified... (a lot of assts have applied for the job)

One name I knew about but some people may be suprised is up for the Vets job... he works at Vets... he is a coach...a very good one.... but not a football coach...

I'll let ya'll munch on that :)

[EaglePower]

List is out!
http://956sports.com/?p=715

[eagleprophet]

Pena for Mission and Gnatt for Vets. Evans would be just as good, too!! I believe in 2nd chances and those two former head coaches deserve and should get opportunities.

But who knows, maybe someone from the list will impress as I don't know very many of them.

[EaglePower]

Pena for Mission and Gnatt for Vets. Evans would be just as good, too!! I believe in 2nd chances and those two former head coaches deserve and should get opportunities.

But who knows, maybe someone from the list will impress as I don't know very many of them.

It'd be nice to see where some of these coaches came from!

Yea those are deffinately two names who can be thrown into the mix. Personally Maubry the Freshman head coach. He led the up and coming seniors of 2010, 10-0 their freshman year he knows what he is doing but i dont know if he will be applying
Guess Mourbry did apply. Also Coach Jones and Hinsley

[MANIMAL]

think of it this way IF it turns out way ive been hearing there wil still be 2 more HC position open within a month from now

[EaglePower]

Nvm now I understand

[eagleprophet]

think of it this way IF it turns out way ive been hearing there wil still be 2 more HC position open within a month from now

I hope you're right on half of them Manimal, but the Yotes can keep Casas IMO.

[Tiger for Life]

Hey EP Casas is a pretty good coach,I'm not sure you would really want to pass up on him.He is a very strict coach and can really turn a program into something special! I wish he was the coach at Mercedes this past couple of years,I'll tell you one thing we probably wouldn't have the FIASCO we had this past year!

[davi34]

Can coach Lee really reapply. Lol thats interesting if the Thomas Lee that is listed is him.

Very interesting list. IDK about a couple of the names being thrown over at the mission job but other than that i can see some really good coaching coming out of this list.

potential yes but can they turn that team and coaching potential into Wins (at Mission High):pop:

[EaglePower]

Yeah he did reapply, didn't know you could do that

[davi34]

thats weird lol anyway i wonder who the finalists will be should turn out very intersting

[EaglePower]

Hopefully it won't take much longer, but I don't want them to make a stupid decision :doh:

[davi34]

well it will be pretty hard to do that the list looks preety stacked

[EaglePower]

Yeah long list. I hope they don't take as long as they did to open the position though.

[eagleprophet]

Well the screening process should take about 2 weeks to cut down to 5 or 10 to do round 2 resscreening and interview 3 to 5 guys

[EaglePower]

Well whoever comes in is going to have us ready to go, we're retesting our maxes next week and testing in the 40, 20, pro agility, etc also

[BABYBOOMER]

I agree with eagle440- under the table crap- let's open our eyes and ears Mission community- we need the community to rally around the guys that are best for the kids- they need youth- motivators and someone who generally cares about the kids- Gilpin is a great fit for vets- kids respond to him, motivates like crazy, is smart and knows his football- bring in taylor as his wide reciever coach- rodriquez for his quarterbacks- you got something there- Mission needs to keep the board out of it and listen to the kids- look at what they want- couldn't hurt- why do we keep going out of town for coaches when we have some really good guys who have given a lot to Mission - they know the town, the kids and we all want the same thing- kids having fun and winning games- come on Mission wake up!

[eagleprophet]

Well whoever comes in is going to have us ready to go, we're retesting our maxes next week and testing in the 40, 20, pro agility, etc also

Well let me know how you guys do in those drills and skills. Always interesting to know who can do what and speeds, too.

[EagleMaximus24]

Mission needs to keep the board out of it and listen to the kids- look at what they want- couldn't hurt- why do we keep going out of town for coaches when we have some really good guys who have given a lot to Mission

Last time we listened to the kids we got stuck with coach Lee for a year or 2. If you let the kids choose they are going to want someone that's their friend and not their coach. I say let the coaches resume speak for itself and not hire because the person has been with the kids for so long.

[EaglePower]

Well let me know how you guys do in those drills and skills. Always interesting to know who can do what and speeds, too.

Will do :mad2:

[Joker]

I believe if I read this correctly, Baby Boomer is trying to say there are still coaches in the Mission area who have been here (Gilpin- 18-20 years, I think)and have coached with some of the best and haven't been given a chance (DC/OC) due to the New Head Coaches bringing in there own people. Motivator he is and the kids respond to him, Loyalty, what administration wouldn't want a coach who is loyal to his community, and knows the game of FOOTBALL. Some old Mission allumnist have come and gone- why come back, WAKE UP MISSION!!! Get coaches that will get the wins- the only way is to get coaches who motivate the kids. Leave the Pena drama out of Mission, and if Casas wanted greener pastures in La Joya (retirement), stay and Retire there. Both Schools deserve the best, not what the Board's compadres think is the best.

[Gig 'Em Aggies]

My thoughts on a couple of things and respnses to a couple of posters. This is a great forum! I have enjoyed reading it all moning. I wish I had known about it sooner.

I agree with Baby Boomer and Joker about Coach Gilpin being the rright guy to hire at Vets. Both mentioned the kids wanting him to be the new coach. I know for a fact that this is true. My son played there (and I have 2 more headed that way soon which is why I have taken such an interest in this matter) and he told me that evryone wanted him to be new coach. I asked around myself, and that is what they want. Eagle Maximus, I saw where you wrote that it shouldn;t matter what the players think. the example you gave was Tom Lee at Mission. 2 dfferent people, 2 different personalities, 2 different coaching styles. Also Lee was at Mission for two years only before he was given the job-no application necessary. Gilpin has been in Mission 20 years. Loyalty to a distrcit and city has to play some part in this process. I agree that kids shouldnt make the rulesbut there opinion has tobe listened to. after all, they are the one that will be playing for the new coach.

Eagle Prophet, saw in another place where you asked whether the board should give Gilpin a chance? I assume by you (and Eagle Maximus) name thatnyou are Eagle fans? were you fans during the 90's when CoachnGilpin was a coachat Mission High? Did you not hear or observe for yourself the sam things that have been said on here? Motivator, intense, cares about kids, etc. ? I have observed him both at Mission and vets and I feel that the school district needs to be made aware that the majority of people in Mission who care about this at all support Coach Gilpin.

we are rooting for you Coach Gilpin. Good luck.

[Gig 'Em Aggies]

Interesting. Tom Lee applied back at the school he was just fired from. That sure seems strange.

[EagleMaximus24]

i have no problem with the board picking Gilpen at all. i hear he's a great coach and many of his students care about him. I honestly don't care who the Patriots pick at all they could go ahead and pick Coach Lee if they want to. What im trying to say is look at the coaches resume don't just go by what the kids want. I understand that we should listen to the kids opinions but that shouldn't be why a varsity coach gets hired.

[eagleprophet]

I would be totally content to see Coach Gilpin as the selection at Vets. I'm surprised he didn't put in for both schools since he would actually get two shots at being looked at. Regardless, the guy is a football nut and a good one at that. I ask if he should be given a chance because I actually feel that he could be a good coach over at Vets.

Oh and I am an Eagle fan, a very avid one, but still support the Patriots as well. It's gonna be an interesting ride from here until the day that those two spots are filled.

[TheEagle440]

So do you think Pena will be hired at Mission with ALL his baggage? I don't know the guy but character seems to be an issue when his name is brought up. Gilpin would do great at Vets. I actually think the zoning that the Mission "Bored" members made benefits Vets because of all the newer subdivisions east of conway. So he'd have some fire power.

[EagleMaximus24]

I would really like to see Gilpen get hired for the Vets job. He has a lot of experience in football compared to Lee in my opinion.

Coaches i'd like to see in Mission
1. Mario Pena
2. Lupe Rodriguez
3. David Evans

Vets
1. TommyLee- Why he applied for both schools and not just MHS is a slap to his current players. IMO
2.Gilpen
3. Casas

[Joker]

Maximus, I don't want to come across as making any asumption that the kids should have a say in the next coach, just that whomever comes in for either school should be a TEAM friendly coach and have a like-ability when it comes to coaching. By no means am I saying he can't hoot and holler at his team, but too much talent has gone to waste on kids that can't get along with coaches. I am all for the betterment of both Eagles and Patriots football programs! MISSION needs to be on top again.:rock:

[Joker]

Casas- No way, he needs to stay in La Joya. Why come back to Mission, he left the top athletic position for a higher pay as coach in La Joya and now wants to jump back to his alma mater. Too much wishy washy. Get someone LOYAL for MISSION!

[Eagle4Life]

I think either school would benefit if Coach Gilpin were to be hired as head coach. I have known him since he first moved to Mission a very long time ago. He is not only a great motivator, and coach for the kids, he is also a good English teacher. Because the students liked him so much at MHS when he taught there, there were older teachers who did not understand his teaching methods, and said, as many henny pennys do today, that the students had good grades because he gave them to the students. I know this is not true.

He and I have very similar teaching styles, and students like being in our classes...we have no discipline problems, and the students know we have their best interests at heart. He will make an excellent head coach, and should have been given a chance at MHS long ago.

On another note though, I don't think that the "bored" even cares what happens at MHS. ONe can look at how the city was divided and tell that. Anyone with any common sense can say the division is not right. we have more students in the lower income bracket by a long shot, have more than 400 students than vets, and yet we keep getting compared by it. Some have even said that is why Tom was let go...he made the mistake of beating the Board's team. I know I will get comments on that, but MANY people have that perception.

The district has no money, but people raise thousands for a scoreboard, but our swim teams go without a pool for 6 weeks, with district tomorrow and no place to practice. They have to pay McAllen so they can use their pools. Veterans has swim team members who could go all the way to state, but without a pool to practice in, it becomes quite difficult. The other minor sports are facing the same issues as well. I wish the community could hear about everything and not just FOOTBALL.

Don't get me wrong, as my name says, I am an eagle for life, and go to each and every home game, but all teams and sports are Eagles. I hope whoever we get as HC, is as good a Coordinator as Tom was. He helped out everyone when he could if he was asked.

[Joker]

Nicely put. I totally agree with your arguement- It's time to let our voices be heard.

[EagleMaximus24]

MISSION needs to be on top again.:rock:

Now thats something i could agree with.

[TigerCrazy]

Hey ep check your messages

[Gig 'Em Aggies]

I do not know much abiut Mario Pena, but I have also heard of the "baggage" that comes with him. I do know a little more about Leonel casas and I cannot even begin to think about my sons having to play for him. I see where some people say he has a disciplined style. I would call it something a little different. his treatment of players and coaches alike leave much to be desired. I know that he has friends here that are invlved in this selections but hopefully there are enough people that know about him to keep that hiring from happening at either school. BIG MISTAKE if that were to happen. If it happens, I hope he is at Mission High, but I am assuming there are enough interested people to voice their opinions on him that the board will think twice before bringing back someone who left for greener pastures.

Eagle Maximus and eagleprophet, I understand you are Eagle fans so it stand to reason most of your interest is at that position. It is nice to see tha you are involved enough to agree with me that Coach Gilpin is most definitely the right person for the Vets job though. I don't see how anyone can think that with 1 playoff tripm in 7 seasons at vets that things can't get better with someone who the kids will fight tooth and nail for. You have to be given a chance sometime and with no where to go but up, a young enthusiastic coach is just what the doctor ordered for that school.

Again I say that I have enjoyed reading everyone's comments and thoughts and I just hope that the right man is chosen for both jobs. However I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever, and this is from a parent taht we all want what is best for our own children no one can possible disagree with that statement, that Coach Gilpin WILL provide that for the athletes at Vets.

[eagleprophet]

I do not know much abiut Mario Pena, but I have also heard of the "baggage" that comes with him. I do know a little more about Leonel casas and I cannot even begin to think about my sons having to play for him. I see where some people say he has a disciplined style. I would call it something a little different. his treatment of players and coaches alike leave much to be desired. I know that he has friends here that are invlved in this selections but hopefully there are enough people that know about him to keep that hiring from happening at either school. BIG MISTAKE if that were to happen. If it happens, I hope he is at Mission High, but I am assuming there are enough interested people to voice their opinions on him that the board will think twice before bringing back someone who left for greener pastures.

Eagle Maximus and eagleprophet, I understand you are Eagle fans so it stand to reason most of your interest is at that position. It is nice to see tha you are involved enough to agree with me that Coach Gilpin is most definitely the right person for the Vets job though. I don't see how anyone can think that with 1 playoff tripm in 7 seasons at vets that things can't get better with someone who the kids will fight tooth and nail for. You have to be given a chance sometime and with no where to go but up, a young enthusiastic coach is just what the doctor ordered for that school.

Again I say that I have enjoyed reading everyone's comments and thoughts and I just hope that the right man is chosen for both jobs. However I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever, and this is from a parent taht we all want what is best for our own children no one can possible disagree with that statement, that Coach Gilpin WILL provide that for the athletes at Vets.


Let's talk about Vets in the other thread. It's not getting any attention at all. I feel that the Vets fans are lukewarm fans and only come out when it is against Mission. That is one thing that has really bothered me about the community eeast of Conway. I live east of Conway and Work east of conway, but there just appears to be too much apathy from that fan base. And that could be fixed up with starting a winning tradition of its own.

So I'm off to the Vets thread. Join me there my friend.

[eagleprophet]

So do you think Pena will be hired at Mission with ALL his baggage? I don't know the guy but character seems to be an issue when his name is brought up. Gilpin would do great at Vets. I actually think the zoning that the Mission "Bored" members made benefits Vets because of all the newer subdivisions east of conway. So he'd have some fire power.

I would like to see Pena come to Mission and bring in a good OC with him that likes to air out the ball and can also incorporate the run in there as well. To win up in the third round you need to have a potent passing attack along with skilled runners to keep the defense guarding everything. If you can pass with ease, the game becomes alot easier cuz the run then becomes like a surprise option. From what I've observed Pena had Bassett at SB and they threw the ball quite a bit. He could bring him back or get Lupe Rodriguez as the OC to try to emulate the run and shoot offense of the 80s and 90s Mission had so much success with.


As far as his Character, I don't know him personally, but do note that wherever he's gone, he's helped programs get better, especially defensively. And defensively is where the RGV teams need to really step it up to become more able to compete upstate as well.

[eagleprophet]

I think either school would benefit if Coach Gilpin were to be hired as head coach. I have known him since he first moved to Mission a very long time ago. He is not only a great motivator, and coach for the kids, he is also a good English teacher. Because the students liked him so much at MHS when he taught there, there were older teachers who did not understand his teaching methods, and said, as many henny pennys do today, that the students had good grades because he gave them to the students. I know this is not true.

He and I have very similar teaching styles, and students like being in our classes...we have no discipline problems, and the students know we have their best interests at heart. He will make an excellent head coach, and should have been given a chance at MHS long ago.

On another note though, I don't think that the "bored" even cares what happens at MHS. ONe can look at how the city was divided and tell that. Anyone with any common sense can say the division is not right. we have more students in the lower income bracket by a long shot, have more than 400 students than vets, and yet we keep getting compared by it. Some have even said that is why Tom was let go...he made the mistake of beating the Board's team. I know I will get comments on that, but MANY people have that perception.

The district has no money, but people raise thousands for a scoreboard, but our swim teams go without a pool for 6 weeks, with district tomorrow and no place to practice. They have to pay McAllen so they can use their pools. Veterans has swim team members who could go all the way to state, but without a pool to practice in, it becomes quite difficult. The other minor sports are facing the same issues as well. I wish the community could hear about everything and not just FOOTBALL.

Don't get me wrong, as my name says, I am an eagle for life, and go to each and every home game, but all teams and sports are Eagles. I hope whoever we get as HC, is as good a Coordinator as Tom was. He helped out everyone when he could if he was asked.


If Board member attendance at FB games and other athletic events is what ur referring to, then yes, the Board leans more to the East and Vets. I saw just like one or maybe two at Eagle games. But anywhere from 4-6 of them at the Vets games on a consistent basis.

[missioneyes]

what kind of oc r u looking for ep. tell me in numbers like what kind of yardage in passing and running. how many points are you talking about. do you make the kids fit the system or does the system fit the kids. what happens if you cant pass.

[eagleprophet]

what kind of oc r u looking for ep. tell me in numbers like what kind of yardage in passing and running. how many points are you talking about. do you make the kids fit the system or does the system fit the kids. what happens if you cant pass.

I feel you need to be balanced ideally at 50/50, but in Mission we all know people don't want to see the run too much. So in Mission it would have to be 60-40 or 70-30 run to pass ratio. We've had years when we can't pass, but not necessarily because it was a bad Qb, but because the routes were slmost always predictable eventhough there was speed to burn.

Lupe as OC if he doesn't get the interview for HC.

[missioneye1]

What makes you think Lupe is the answer? What has he done? When he ran the spread at PSJA North he had the worst offense in the district. I think it was less than 125 yds a game. You didnt answer two questions how many yards per game and points. Also does the system fit the kids or do the kids fit the system. Also wasnt he here before and why did he leave? Mission does have some speed but blazing no way. In track they have no one in the sprints that consistently places in the top three. (100, 200 and 4 by 1). To have a good offense one must also have a great defense. Something we dont have. When Rusty won it was the defense with Coach Wagner, with coach Detmer it was the defense, ( 3 and out). How many times did this happen last year. You want Mission to go pass happy no matter what, I just want them to win, any possible way whether it be it running or passing or both.

[Gig 'Em Aggies]

Hey eagleprophet i moved to the vets thread. Sorry, there was just a lot of talk about both schools on this one. I hope you get who you want over there at mission. the late 80's and mid 90'swere awesome at mission high! Wish it was still like that! Just wanting to get things on the right track again at bith schools (did you see lupes comments about mission in the Monitor?) but because of zonign and my family my interest is in the vets job. GILPIN!!!!!!!! Still watching the eagle job with interest though. if you can talk to anyone to keep the board from forcing casas on you, you ought to try. Don;t think you will like that hiring.

[EagleMaximus24]

"I knew they had the athletes. And I've always known that if somebody gets a hold of that team that knew what they were doing and was a part of that system they could really do wonders with it." Lupe Rodriguez Fridays Monitor.

Oh Snap NO HE DIDN'T!!!!!:snicker::jerry:

Mario Pena for Head Coach and Lupe for OC. We can forgive Pena for what he did to the field house when he was with La Joya.:fire::argh:

[EaglePower]

:boxing::handball: When do you guys think this will all be finalized? This coming week, next week, week after that? :alien:

[eagleprophet]

:boxing::handball: When do you guys think this will all be finalized? This coming week, next week, week after that? :alien:

We should have coaches at both schools by Feb. 11, 2008!!

[EaglePower]

We should have coaches at both schools by Feb. 11, 2008!!

Cool. Would have been kind of interesting to start the week off with a new head coach.

[eagleprophet]

Cool. Would have been kind of interesting to start the week off with a new head coach.

From what was told to me is that they are going to interview like 10 or so coaches and they are going to be interviewed by the two committees simultaneously and they get to pick their coach from the pack. Then those that applied for the sole schools will get a chance to be interviewed by that school's committee only to see if he is the one they want.

Question is which school gets to pick their coach first and what if both schools have the same guy ranked #1 by the repsective committees. What happens then. ARe they gonna flip a coin to see who gets first dibs. This could get really ugly if that were the case.

[fine wine]

EP is wrong, they will interview more than 10 coaches. The interview list is at least 20. Some notables didn't make it. They didnt meet the specs. 1st interview tomorrow at 9. Park outside Mission White House and see who it is.
He has won before, can he win again if given a chance. The peeps will be mad, he is not known as a passing guru.

[eagleprophet]

EP is wrong, they will interview more than 10 coaches. The interview list is at least 20. Some notables didn't make it. They didnt meet the specs. 1st interview tomorrow at 9. Park outside Mission White House and see who it is.
He has won before, can he win again if given a chance. The peeps will be mad, he is not known as a passing guru.

Yeah, I'm hearing they are interviewing even more than 20. Well let us know anything as soon as you get dibs on the infomration.

[EaglePower]

So who's being interviewed?

[TheEagle440]

Do any "insiders" know how many applicants they will interview per day? Because 20 + interviews can take FOREVER.

[EaglePower]

Do any "insiders" know how many applicants they will interview per day? Because 20 + interviews can take FOREVER.

Like they took forever to even to open the spot:handball:

[eagleprophet]

I was told they interviewed David Evans and Mario Pena today. There should be a list of those that are being interviewed. Anybody know how to get a hold of that list besides calling their central office for the information.

A lot of people are suggesting that Mission hire Mario Pena and get Lupe Rodriguez as his offensive Coordinator. That has been the idea of several of the closest Eagle supporters were contemplating and suggesting this tandem and give it a go.


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[EaglePower]

A lot of people are suggesting that Mission hire Mario Pena and get Lupe Rodriguez as his offensive Coordinator. That has been the idea of several of the closest Eagle supporters were contemplating and suggesting this tandem and give it a go.


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Are those supporters on the board that chooses the coach?

[Joker]

Is the pope catholic?

[Joker]

Is Lupe gonna be interviewed or was he eliminated in round #1? You got the scoop Profit?

[TheEagle440]

So what if its what everyone was saying early on? Compadreville, Texas? Then Mario Pena (Cheney) and Leonel Casas (Bush) would be "given" the job. I'd still be somewhat happy because if thats the case I'd take Pena any day over Casas just on scheme alone. Pena's defense automatically pounds the simply figured offense of Casas. Mission High wins! The rest of the schedule I don't know what would happen guess it would depend on what he decides to do offensively.

[Eagle4Life]

So what if its what everyone was saying early on? Compadreville, Texas? Then Mario Pena (Cheney) and Leonel Casas (Bush) would be "given" the job. I'd still be somewhat happy because if thats the case I'd take Pena any day over Casas just on scheme alone. Pena's defense automatically pounds the simply figured offense of Casas. Mission High wins! The rest of the schedule I don't know what would happen guess it would depend on what he decides to do offensively.

Keep your politics for the nation out of this. I am offended that you call those two coaches Bush and Cheney. :stir: Call them something else please.

[TheEagle440]

Keep your politics for the nation out of this. I am offended that you call those two coaches Bush and Cheney. :stir: Call them something else please.

IM SORRY COACH!

Self interest based politics IS what the school system is in Mission. They should take this opportunity to CHANGE.

IM SORRY COACH!

[TheEagle440]

Keep your politics for the nation out of this. I am offended that you call those two coaches Bush and Cheney. :stir: Call them something else please.

IM SORRY COACH!

Self interest based politics IS what the school system is in Mission. They should take this opportunity to CHANGE.

What else can we call you? Recycled, Washed up, etc. I was bieng nice.

IM SORRY COACH!

[TheEagle440]

Keep your politics for the nation out of this. I am offended that you call those two coaches Bush and Cheney. :stir: Call them something else please.

http://www.legaljuice.com/bush%20and%20cheney%20doctored%20image%20picture%2 0funny%20switched%20heads%20cut%20paste.jpg

Ummm Fired, Fired heeee heee Fired, Fired :stir:

[EaglePower]

Any news?

[eagleprophet]

Nothing man!!

[ADB31]

If anyone has any inside info for me please PM me. I have some information that has come to light about how they eliminated people from the interview process "incorectly"

please send me a PM if you have any info you want to share.

Thanks

ADB

[EaglePower]

If anyone has any inside info for me please PM me. I have some information that has come to light about how they eliminated people from the interview process "incorectly"

please send me a PM if you have any info you want to share.

Thanks

ADB

Don't mess up people. Please. :doh:

[eagleprophet]

Don't mess up people. Please. :doh:

They will make a good choice. I don't think they can feel good going around town if they made a boggus decision on their selections.

Everybody seems to be interested in this issue, especially since it involves the entire district athletic program.

[TheEagle440]

I'm optimisitic about the whole thing. I just wish someone was already hired. Who ever it is I'm gonna support em (if they throw at least 65% of the time;))

[eagleprophet]

I'm optimisitic about the whole thing. I just wish someone was already hired. Who ever it is I'm gonna support em (if they throw at least 65% of the time;))

I'm sure that's a question that is being asked of the applicants.

[EaglePower]

So next week is judgement day?:boxing:

[fine wine]

Lee, Gaston, Dinkelman...rumor is look for a table by the board

[eagleprophet]

Lee, Gaston, Dinkelman...rumor is look for a table by the board

WOW!! Lee is a big surprise as a top three.