Pre-Season Top 10

[CiscoKid]

#1 MCHI
#2 Sharyland
#3 Lopez
#4 Edinburg North
#5 Palmview Lajoya ( Mickey is there now)
#6 Niki Rowe
#7 PSJA Bears
#8 LaJoya
#9 PSJA Raiders
#10 Mercedes

Post your own pre-season Top 10. This is based on how the Fall tournaments have been going on.

[eagleprophet]

#1 MCHI
#2 Sharyland
#3 Lopez
#4 Edinburg North
#5 Palmview Lajoya ( Mickey is there now)
#6 Niki Rowe
#7 PSJA Bears
#8 LaJoya
#9 PSJA Raiders
#10 Mercedes

Post your own pre-season Top 10. This is based on how the Fall tournaments have been going on.

No MISSION EAGLES on your list? Wow!!!

[Ol' Buzzard]

Mercedes?!?!?

Something is just wrong...

[xlobo]

Mercedes?!?!?

Something is just wrong...

Palmview having mickey won't make them #5 he can't picth every game and I'd rank based on depth and talent....maybe palmview at #9 or 10 and sub mercedes for mission then we got a top 10 list.

[outlander]

why is mercedes so high? is pepper pitching again?:)
or explain

[outlander]

no weslaco or porter? weslaco has dylan and several guys returning, porter has moya and cristo and more of em, these guys are not top10?

[Ol' Buzzard]

9 out of 10 times the preseason top ten list looks nothing like the final top ten list.

[84bobcat]

Palmview having mickey won't make them #5 he can't picth every game and I'd rank based on depth and talent....maybe palmview at #9 or 10 and sub mercedes for mission then we got a top 10 list.

Sorry to tell you but Palmview will surprise alot of people this year, and not because of Mickey. They are real young solid group, they have been playing select ball for years now, you got Gabe Barrera, the Hurache (Cant spell his name), and others. They are tough. They took second at the tourny edinburg North just put on a few weeks back without Mickey. They lost only to McHi.

[84bobcat]

#1 MCHI
#2 Sharyland
#3 Lopez
#4 Edinburg North
#5 Palmview Lajoya ( Mickey is there now)
#6 Niki Rowe
#7 PSJA Bears
#8 LaJoya
#9 PSJA Raiders
#10 Mercedes

Post your own pre-season Top 10. This is based on how the Fall tournaments have been going on.

My projection.
1. McHi
2. Shary
3. Palmview
4. EHS
5. Browntown Lopez
6. ENHS
7. Mercedes
8. Edcouch Elsa (yes, tough group if they stay eligible)
the rest a toss up, PSJA lost Alexis, have not seen them play. Raiders, too early to tell. La Joya, lost to many kids to other schools. Niki Rowe, too many kids on thier squad to get an acurate assement.

[davi34]

im not sure about mission high starting in the top ten at the beggining of the season lost seven starters to graduation but they will take 32-4A championship there is no real competition

[panthercrazy]

GO WESLACO!!!

[xlobo]

no weslaco or porter? weslaco has dylan and several guys returning, porter has moya and cristo and more of em, these guys are not top10?

Guys that make the polls dont have any idea of how good Moya and Cristo have gotten....especially Cristo. And Im sure the Porter guys know it...

[xlobo]

GO WESLACO!!!

where are you all going? :hmmm:

[Ol' Buzzard]

My projection.
1. McHi
2. Shary
3. Palmview
4. EHS
5. Browntown Lopez
6. ENHS
7. Mercedes
8. Edcouch Elsa (yes, tough group if they stay eligible)
the rest a toss up, PSJA lost Alexis, have not seen them play. Raiders, too early to tell. La Joya, lost to many kids to other schools. Niki Rowe, too many kids on thier squad to get an acurate assement.

#8 E-E

What do you know that I do not? :D

[CiscoKid]

Let's begin with top 5.
1. Mchi very solid
2. Shary 5 strong seniors
3. Lopez has to stay healthy
4. ENHS 8 seniors returning
5. Palmview lajoya Mickey factor with young talent

Ehs has not won any fall tournaments and is making too many errors with no offense
Weslaco has not played well this fall Dylan might win them some games but won't beat Lopez

Niki Rowe has traveled to CC and played well against tough competition

PSJA Raiders took second this last week in harl tourney and beat the Bobcats twice. Watch out for the raiders in district.

Post your district predictions for your team!

[davi34]

i can agree with mchi at one and shary at two but its a real toss up from there. Also i heard that mickey moved to Cypress

[Ol' Buzzard]

#8 E-E

What do you know that I do not? :D

So what do you know 84bobcat?

[84bobcat]

So what do you know 84bobcat?

Two years ago they were super young, mostly entering freshman and soph that played in the local colt tournament to qualify to go to state. THey hung with the Edinburg team, matched us run for run, then with time about to expire, we busted open for a three run lead. Real scrapy bunch. Last summer saw them, they are still pretty raw, but there is talent there. If they stay eligible and Coach Alejandro (assistant), can get a bit more involved they should do well. I am surpised they did not do better this summer.

Basically I see a scrappy team that if they play as a team, they should get some key wins.

[84bobcat]

Let's begin with top 5.
1. Mchi very solid
2. Shary 5 strong seniors
3. Lopez has to stay healthy
4. ENHS 8 seniors returning
5. Palmview lajoya Mickey factor with young talent

Ehs has not won any fall tournaments and is making too many errors with no offense
Weslaco has not played well this fall Dylan might win them some games but won't beat Lopez

Niki Rowe has traveled to CC and played well against tough competition

PSJA Raiders took second this last week in harl tourney and beat the Bobcats twice. Watch out for the raiders in district.

Post your district predictions for your team!


Pre-Season tournament play is tough to gauge what will happen during the regular season. Kids out playing basketball, working, etc. Coaches will be different once season starts. ENHS really came through, strating catcher, first base, center field, and short stop not there and the young kids put on one heck of an outing. Same with EHS, some kids out but they blew a two (i think it was two) run lead at the end of the game to send Raiders to the title game. Same thing happened earlier, EHS blew a three run lead at the end of the game to raiders. EHS will be there at the end, I believe that. Talent is there, kids have to stop making easy plays harder than they are. I see too many trys at back handed stops that are easily caught out in front, to many routine throws being held to long and then rushing the trhow to the bag. I know Coach Valdez and Kaz will fix most of this. I will say Raiders have really impressed me, they are playing with alot more confidence than they have had in the past. I havent seen Ryan Ramirez? I hope his pops is ok, they can really use his speed.

[84bobcat]

i can agree with mchi at one and shary at two but its a real toss up from there. Also i heard that mickey moved to Cypress

I heard he had to come back due to some UIL thing. Last I heard he is at Palmview. Too Many rumors about him to know what is actually going on. I have not seen him at all.

[Ol' Buzzard]

Two years ago they were super young, mostly entering freshman and soph that played in the local colt tournament to qualify to go to state. THey hung with the Edinburg team, matched us run for run, then with time about to expire, we busted open for a three run lead. Real scrapy bunch. Last summer saw them, they are still pretty raw, but there is talent there. If they stay eligible and Coach Alejandro (assistant), can get a bit more involved they should do well. I am surpised they did not do better this summer.

Basically I see a scrappy team that if they play as a team, they should get some key wins.

I don't think Coach Alejandro is employed in the District anymore... I may be wrong.

[davi34]

yea i know what you mean (bobcat84) I havent seen much of mickey either but i guess we will al just have to wait for the season as for Ryan Ramirez the last time i saw his father he seemed to be ok. Mission plays North tomorrow at Leo Najo so i'll give a little update after that.

[xlobo]

These young Lobos have something to prove.....all Juniors and 1 senior! Health is key!

[clean-up hitter]

Lopez Lopos are not young anymore. If they don't go deep, very deep into the play-offs lots of people will be dissapointed in Browntown.. These guys are very TALENTED, AND HAVE LOTS OF HEART Esperamos mucho de ellos.

[Dudley]

Lopez young again? Young team is a group of fish and sophs. Juniors and Seniors are vets. Porter relied heavily on Henry last year. Just have to see what they can do. Both Hanna and rivera are starting with new coaches. Eagles are talented but they always find a way to lose. :fart:

[xlobo]

Im telling you they have about 3 fresh and soph that are good! The rest is Beto, Justin, Mague, Carllos, Kike, Juan. and plus one senior. I know lots is expected from this group. Even since last year! NO EXCUSES!

[davi34]

Well
Mission High Varsity Beat PSJA North today
Final 11-4

Mission American Legion beat Edinburg North
Final 6-3

Ed. North hit good pitching
Steve Gonzalez (LCC) started on the bump and gave up one
Jerry Leal (Till) 1 earned run
Mickey Pena 1 earned run

And Mickey is going to play in CY Creek
sorry Palmview

[CiscoKid]

Well
Mission High Varsity Beat PSJA North today
Final 11-4

Mission American Legion beat Edinburg North
Final 6-3

Ed. North hit good pitching
Steve Gonzalez (LCC) started on the bump and gave up one
Jerry Leal (Till) 1 earned run
Mickey Pena 1 earned run

And Mickey is going to play in CY Creek
sorry Palmview

Ed. North played well against the American Legion team. Louie Vega(Sr) pitched 3 solid innings but 2 errors in the 3rd inning cost him 4 runs. Danny Patino (Soph) pitched the 4 inning and gave up 1 ER. Nick Escobar(Soph) pitched a 3 up 3 down 5th. Rick Fuerte (Sr) pitched the 6th with no ER, JD(Sr) pitched the 7th 3up 3down. Chris Cavazoz(Sr) pitched the 8th and gave up 1 ER. Good game overall.

[xlobo]

Well
Mission High Varsity Beat PSJA North today
Final 11-4

Mission American Legion beat Edinburg North
Final 6-3

Ed. North hit good pitching
Steve Gonzalez (LCC) started on the bump and gave up one
Jerry Leal (Till) 1 earned run
Mickey Pena 1 earned run

And Mickey is going to play in CY Creek
sorry Palmview

So can you take Palmview out of the top 10 already....LOL!

[xlobo]

I'd put Mission in there place...

[davi34]

If Mission plays error free good baseball. They are definately a top ten team

:):nice:

[Ol' Buzzard]

Mission has been consistently good for a while... can't believe they didn't put them in the list!

[outlander]

Im telling you they have about 3 fresh and soph that are good! The rest is Beto, Justin, Mague, Carllos, Kike, Juan. and plus one senior. I know lots is expected from this group. Even since last year! NO EXCUSES!

you are correct xlobo and next year you may get 3 players that participated in the championship game at the World series from the Matomoros team, they have dual citizenship, one is 6'1 and barely in 8th gr.:cheers:

[xlobo]

Lopez Lopos are not young anymore. If they don't go deep, very deep into the play-offs lots of people will be dissapointed in Browntown.. These guys are very TALENTED, AND HAVE LOTS OF HEART Esperamos mucho de ellos.

:agree: 100% but Im used to calling them the young lobos because I played with them as a senior. State tourney is EXPECTED and THEY KNOW IT!

[footballfan]

mickey is in cy fair you bozos!
he booked the valley to get scouts attn.

[xlobo]

mickey is in cy fair you bozos!
he booked the valley to get scouts attn.

Smart kid! :afro:

[xlobo]

mickey is in cy fair you bozos!
he booked the valley to get scouts attn.

Who you calling a bozo :fire::mad2::confused:

[punisher66]

#1 MCHI
#2 Sharyland
#3 Lopez
#4 Edinburg North
#5 Palmview Lajoya ( Mickey is there now)
#6 Niki Rowe
#7 PSJA Bears
#8 LaJoya
#9 PSJA Raiders
#10 Mercedes

Post your own pre-season Top 10. This is based on how the Fall tournaments have been going on.

This is a pre-season prediction from what I've seen.

1. MCHI
2. SHARYLAND
3. EDINBURG NORTH
4. LOPEZ
5. NIKKI ROWE
6. PSJA BEARS
7. LA JOYA
8. PSJA RAIDERS
9. MISSION EAGLES
10. MERCEDES

[davi34]

This is a pre-season prediction from what I've seen.

1. MCHI
2. SHARYLAND
3. EDINBURG NORTH
4. LOPEZ
5. NIKKI ROWE
6. PSJA BEARS
7. LA JOYA
8. PSJA RAIDERS
9. MISSION EAGLES
10. MERCEDES



i pretty much agree with this till 7,8,9 there i think it is a toss up Mission full squad beat PSJA North and tied La Joya missing a few key players
so it should be an interesting season this year.

lets get this baseball forum going we need more discussion and more opinions out here guys

[Chicano]

Now that I live closer to the upper valley, I've caught a few ball games and this is MY prediction

1)McHi----If Alexis did indeed transfer, then they'll have one of the best if not the best pitching staff this year. Only problem is that Alvaro hurt his arm/sholder this summer but has been rehabing. Alexis is fire thrower but doesn't not have control or much movement. Pompa's grandson has been getting ripped(skinnier/stronger)... and Ford's dad took him for the summer to play ball in Ft. Worth/Dallas where he had a lot connections from his days in pro ball.
2)Sharyland----Great leadership in it's senior class. Marco, Angel...Tucker... and so on. They have one of the most dedicated, passionate coaches in Bickerton and they play year round. Almost all kids have money and could afford to play summer ball with the Treadaway's and/or work out at the PEN... problem for them is that they can't get the lucky break when it counts! (playoffs).. also I've heard that Medrano might go back to San Antonio. That would be a blow.
3)Lopez---Their core players Carlos,Justin,Alberto,Mague, Luis have played in some BIG TIME games in their short baseball careers. Problem for them is to not over use their aces in the pre-season or PRE-District! Also, I got to see my nephew play against them up in Pharr this off-season and they look pretty solid. Off Topic... man their feild sucks...they need Chia Pet or miracle grass to grow some green!
4)Edinburg---*edit* They need to develop the underclassmen
5)La Joya--- They still got Pecas, Lupe and a few others.. so Mickey is not there but oh well, they'll still compete very good
6)PSJA----Lost Alexis but still have Roli and a newcomer named Diego who transferred from Eagle Pass. We'll see how he does down here in the RGV
7)Mission---Sleeper team but I think they can surprise alot of teams with their scrappy, hustle play. Big Lefty is gone but they'll be ok
8)Hanna---- laugh now, but their coach is a good friend of mine and tells me they practice 2-3 times a week! In the off-season with some parent volunteers! I also think they took the Brownsville Post Tournament or something like that. Their coach reminds me of Bickerton
9)Nikke Rowe---Made the playoffs last year when people counted them out and will make the playoffs once more.
10)Toss Up.... Hard to pick....

What do you all think?

[Ol' Buzzard]

Who you calling a bozo :fire::mad2::confused:

'dem fightin' words xlobo!

[CiscoKid]

Now that I live closer to the upper valley, I've caught a few ball games and this is MY prediction

1)McHi----If Alexis did indeed transfer, then they'll have one of the best if not the best pitching staff this year. Only problem is that Alvaro hurt his arm/sholder this summer but has been rehabing. Alexis is fire thrower but doesn't not have control or much movement. Pompa's grandson has been getting ripped(skinnier/stronger)... and Ford's dad took him for the summer to play ball in Ft. Worth/Dallas where he had a lot connections from his days in pro ball.
2)Sharyland----Great leadership in it's senior class. Marco, Angel...Tucker... and so on. They have one of the most dedicated, passionate coaches in Bickerton and they play year round. Almost all kids have money and could afford to play summer ball with the Treadaway's and/or work out at the PEN... problem for them is that they can't get the lucky break when it counts! (playoffs).. also I've heard that Medrano might go back to San Antonio. That would be a blow.
3)Lopez---Their core players Carlos,Justin,Alberto,Mague, Luis have played in some BIG TIME games in their short baseball careers. Problem for them is to not over use their aces in the pre-season or PRE-District! Also, I got to see my nephew play against them up in Pharr this off-season and they look pretty solid. Off Topic... man their feild sucks...they need Chia Pet or miracle grass to grow some green!
4)Edinburg---Fasci won't carry them far. They lost too many studs last year and Fasci IS NOT the TEAM but they act like he is IT. They need to develop the underclassmen
5)La Joya--- They still got Pecas, Lupe and a few others.. so Mickey is not there but oh well, they'll still compete very good
6)PSJA----Lost Alexis but still have Roli and a newcomer named Diego who transferred from Eagle Pass. We'll see how he does down here in the RGV
7)Mission---Sleeper team but I think they can surprise alot of teams with their scrappy, hustle play. Big Lefty is gone but they'll be ok
8)Hanna---- laugh now, but their coach is a good friend of mine and tells me they practice 2-3 times a week! In the off-season with some parent volunteers! I also think they took the Brownsville Post Tournament or something like that. Their coach reminds me of Bickerton
9)Nikke Rowe---Made the playoffs last year when people counted them out and will make the playoffs once more.
10)Toss Up.... Hard to pick....

What do you all think?

1) McHI--Alexis, Ford,Alvaro, Pompa's nepwew, Mague and lefty pitcher. These guys are solid. At the Edinburg Turkey Bash. Alexis pitched against Sharyland and just dominated them to 7 innings. He only gave up 2 hits and those were against Tyler. Won the game 3-0.
2)Sharyland--Adam, Tucker, Angel, Marco,plus,plus,plus.. These guys are loaded. Just the name Sharyland makes the opposing tram shiver. Cant wait to see the games between Shary and MCHI.
3.) Lopez--Still a young team with the Juniors and Soph but as seasoned as any Senior ball club. Had the opportunity to meet Beto at a Fall tournament and very impressed with this kid. Big heart and knows the game, will be a good leader for Lopez.
4) Edinburg North-- Sorry Chicano, maybe you meant the other Edinburg team. This team will be a solid team with 8 Senior starters and 1 Junior. They took 1st in the Harlingen tournament and 1st this last week in a mini-tournament. They gave the Mission Amercan Legion team a good game if not for 2 errors the score would of been 3-2 with North winning. Also the sophmores are playing with confidence and will step right in next year.
5)Mission--Had to make this change with Mickey not at Palmview. These guys have some solid players. They will miss the big lefty but the other pitchers will just have to raise the level.

The rest will be a toss up: Hanna with a new coach and played well in there tournament, PSJA Bears with the loss of Alexis, Porter should be there again, The PSJA Raiders are scrappy and could be a sleeper team in 31-5A, Edinburg High should be there but have to many issues, have not played well this fall at all. LaJoya has Lupe but no Mickey, Palmview will be young but will win some games without Mickey. Weslaco has Dylan, but thats it. Post your thoughts and any news on player status.

[Chicano]

Well yeah maybe the other Edinburg team, but coach K is a darn good coach and don't know how North will do because they really don't have tradition but I'll agree with you after seeing your point. Glad you agree with the Hanna squad. I remember when they used to be dominant in the lower valley but it's been almost a decade since they have made headlines. *edit* Speaking of Lopez another kid I saw getting ripped was their pitcher Carlos. I saw him last year and he put on some muscle since then.

Can anyone confirm that Medrano (Shary-NewComeroftheYear) transferred? Or is he still in Shary?

[CiscoKid]

Well yeah maybe the other Edinburg team, but coach K is a darn good coach and don't know how North will do because they really don't have tradition but I'll agree with you after seeing your point. Glad you agree with the Hanna squad. I remember when they used to be dominant in the lower valley but it's been almost a decade since they have made headlines. Oh by the way, Fasci is all over YouTube (his dad put up some videos) from this summer's game in American Legion. I honestly don't think American Legion competition is great. Most kids are off playing select ball or at camps/showcases. He pitched against Lopez this offseason in Harlingen and got rocked. Speaking of Lopez another kid I saw getting ripped was their pitcher Carlos. I saw him last year and he put on some muscle since then.

Can anyone confirm that Medrano (Shary-NewComeroftheYear) transferred? Or is he still in Shary?

Thank you Chicano. Edinburg North is not Edinburg High. Unfortunately tradition can not over come talent. See Football.. Unfortunately the politics in Edinburg did not allow coach K to be the head coach. He earned that position going 14-0 in district last year.

[84bobcat]

Why single out Fasci? He is not the team, we all know that, he knows that. He does add another arm to the EHS Pitching squad of Bubba, Austin, Christian, Alonso, Lee, and other pitchers on the team. That I know, no one thinks David is the team, this past summer was his first opportunity to pitch and he did well, no losses. 60% of all major league baseball players played American Legion ball so to say American Legion is not competitive is BS. David has played select and did well. David has attended evaluation camps and has been noticed. I agree the EHS underclassmen need to be developed and that is happening as we speak. I did put him on youtube. He is not all over the place, he is on my youtube page and that’s it. Now, since I put him there, other sites have embedded the link, but I nor David have no control over that. The youtube page was done to be able to send college recruiters to see David at work, and it has paid off well. David has offers to play ball from UTPA, TAMUI, McMurray University, and an invitation to be evaluated at Boston College, amoungst others. He has verbally committed to UTPA, but will chance it and wait till after the season to sign with anyone. As far as David getting rocked against Lopez, no sir, that did not happen, here is what was recorded in the book. David gave up 2 Hits, 2 walks, Struck out5, and allowed 3 runs, in 3 innings of work against one of the best teams in the valley. He also went 1 for 2 a double of Pira’s little bro.. The season will decide who in our district is number one, EHS, ENHS, PSJA or PSJAN any one of those can be district champs. As a mediasportscaster you should know better than to tear any kid down, report the facts, don't get personal.

[84bobcat]

Your assesment of Alexis is way off. Anyone that knows the game knows he is nails. La Joya will not be there, Palmm View is the new top dog in the western part of Hidalgo County.

[Chicano]

:dance:
By no means did anyone or I tear him down. He has a big stick. I just commented on one game I saw earlier last year. So I guess you are his father, which I already knew, but what I meant was to say those coaches that have the team in winter ball are the ones that say he has to pitch every game to have a chance to win! THEY SAID IT! I never said he isn't good. HE IS! You said he gave up 3 earned rbi's.... that's what I meant getting rocked in 5 innings but poor baserunning by the Lopez players resulted in only 3 runs. Look, he has the tools, I said he is all over u-tube so show the others that they should do what YOU DID. That was all. Please don't get too sentimental about something that can be interpreted the wrong way when it SHOULD NOT.

[CiscoKid]

:dance:
By no means did anyone or I tear him down. He has a big stick. I just commented on one game I saw earlier last year. So I guess you are his father, which I already knew, but what I meant was to say those coaches that have the team in winter ball are the ones that say he has to pitch every game to have a chance to win! THEY SAID IT! I never said he isn't good. HE IS! You said he gave up 3 earned rbi's.... that's what I meant getting rocked in 5 innings but poor baserunning by the Lopez players resulted in only 3 runs. Look, he has the tools, I said he is all over u-tube so show the others that they should do what YOU DID. That was all. Please don't get too sentimental about something that can be interpreted the wrong way when it SHOULD NOT.

Chicano: Fasci's Dad is doing what all the fathers in the Valley should do. And that is promote there sons to college scouts. AND dont give me that it's too expensive. UTSA has HS Evaluation camps for $ 30.00. TAMUCC has camps for $ 50.00. UTB Had an evaluation camp last fall for $ 20.00. There is opportunity for players who want to play the next level of baseball. You shouldn't pick on just one player from one school, i believe this board is to keep up with what is happening in baseball in the valley. A positive post would be much better than a negative post.

[Chicano]

:agree:

I agree, it is a good thing to post videos and all that. I wanted to show the forum that more people should take advantage of a free tool like u-tube for recruiting purposes. Really the camps are the cheap? That's very good considering the economic status our nation is in right now. I've heard of camps/showcases can run into $500! Anyways, please disregard the post if anyone took it the wrong way. No harm intended. By the way, anyone know the schedule yet for this week's tourney?

[CiscoKid]

:agree:

I agree, it is a good thing to post videos and all that. I wanted to show the forum that more people should take advantage of a free tool like u-tube for recruiting purposes. Really the camps are the cheap? That's very good considering the economic status our nation is in right now. I've heard of camps/showcases can run into $500! Anyways, please disregard the post if anyone took it the wrong way. No harm intended. By the way, anyone know the schedule yet for this week's tourney?

Shary Mini Tournament

Sat Jan 10

8:30am ENHS vs Rowe
10:30am PSJA Raiders vs Sharyland
12:30pm Rowe vs Raiders
2:30pm Sharyland vs ENHS

Sunday

9:00am # 3 seed vs #2 seed
11:00am # 4 seed vs #1 seed
1:30 Championship Game 7 innings

[davi34]

HIJACKED:cry:

[CiscoKid]

HIJACKED:cry:

Sorry Davi,
Only had 1 field with no lights. Wanted to use Mission but no luck.

[davi34]

[QUOTE=CiscoKid;149504]Sorry Davi,
Only had 1 field with no lights. Wanted to use Mission but no luck.[/QUOT
Its ok i think as of right now we are done with Winter ball by order of the varsity head coach. But Thanks anyway Cisco Kid.:)

[84bobcat]

:)
Chicano: Fasci's Dad is doing what all the fathers in the Valley should do. And that is promote there sons to college scouts. AND dont give me that it's too expensive. UTSA has HS Evaluation camps for $ 30.00. TAMUCC has camps for $ 50.00. UTB Had an evaluation camp last fall for $ 20.00. There is opportunity for players who want to play the next level of baseball. You shouldn't pick on just one player from one school, i believe this board is to keep up with what is happening in baseball in the valley. A positive post would be much better than a negative post.

Your a class act cisco, always have been. :agree:

[Chicano]

McHi 4
Weslaco1 @ the Harlingen Tourney

Brownsville/San Benito 3
McHi 1

Mercedes/PSJA 1
Brownsville/San Benito 7

Falfurias 5
Port Isabel 0

---Some of the Scores this Saturday
Good little tournament going on @ WhiteWing Stadium with McHi in full force with Franz, Alvaro and Ford and Weslaco was in full force too. Brownsville had some Pace and San Benito Players and I only recognized mague and carlos from Lopez on the team.

[davi34]

Who won this tournament:handball:

[CiscoKid]

Harlingen High defeated Mercedes in the Championship Game
Early on Sunday Mercdes defeated McHi and Harlingen High defeated Lopez/SanBenito.
We need to Repent!!! Shary and McHi go down in the same weekend...The world is coming to an end>LOL

[84bobcat]

Harlingen High defeated Mercedes in the Championship Game
Early on Sunday Mercdes defeated McHi and Harlingen High defeated Lopez/SanBenito.
We need to Repent!!! Shary and McHi go down in the same weekend...The world is coming to an end>LOL

WOW, season is going to be real intersting. Things I took for granted are not that, ENHS, Kids have really come together, impresive. Mchi & Shary never would have guessed that. Pharr North, those kids are playing better than ever. Mercedes, always scrappy. WOW! Good for us, keeps us on the edge of our seats. January 30th first day of practice, can not wait.:tumbleweed:

[CiscoKid]

Time to break down ea district.

30-5A

1.Mchi Coach Pompa will have his team ready. These guys would rather bypass the reg season and start the playoffs. Expect good things with Alexis and company.
2. Sharyland these guys just rise to the top every year. They just reload and keep going. Coach BIC will have these guys in prime shape early.
3. Rowe. Could be the RAYs of HS ball. Not many big names but playing with a lot to prove in a tough district. Just like the rays did against the Yankees and Red Sox.

31-5A

1. ENHS. This could be the year for this team. Tough losses against Porter and the Bobcats last year have given this senior group a lot to play for this year. Most of these kids have plyed together since Mustang ball.
2. Psja Raiders. This team has become a true team. They have worked hard this summer and will surprise a lot p teams.
3. Harlingen High. This team wil ride the arm of Keith. Just hope they don't wear him out early in the season.
4. EHS Bobcats. Have to forget about the fall and focus on the fundamentals of the game. It seams like they have a lot of pressure with a new coach this year. He needs to stop worrying about what people are saying and play the best players available to him.

32-5A

1. Lopez will be the best team in Cameron county. Best talent with a lot of experience. Stay healthy and they will go deep in the playoffs.
2.Porter. Still will have the talent without Henry to win a lot of games.
3. Hanna new coach will make the difference.
4. Weslaco. Never count these guys out.

Post your thoughts and comments on players and coaches.

[davi34]

32-4A

1. Mission - Bringing back a good core group of players (Davila, Cantu, Jones, along with some new faces Rodriguez, De la Garza, Flores) will be tough to beat. Good coaching, and they have been working hard during the off season. Beat some good teams during the winter. They are my favorite for this district

2. Mercedes - Good team. Bringing back most of the team. Led by Bustamante the Tigers can give Mission a run for the District title. Good group of players but can they take down the 32-4A power house Mission

3. Roma - Lost their Ace but will be bringing back a few players from a district runner up team.

4. Toss up from here on out

[davi34]

Time to break down ea district.

30-5A

1.Mchi Coach Pompa will have his team ready. These guys would rather bypass the reg season and start the playoffs. Expect good things with Alexis and company.
2. Sharyland these guys just rise to the top every year. They just reload and keep going. Coach BIC will have these guys in prime shape early.
3. Rowe. Could be the RAYs of HS ball. Not many big names but playing with a lot to prove in a tough district. Just like the rays did against the Yankees and Red Sox.

31-5A

1. ENHS. This could be the year for this team. Tough losses against Porter and the Bobcats last year have given this senior group a lot to play for this year. Most of these kids have plyed together since Mustang ball.
2. Psja Raiders. This team has become a true team. They have worked hard this summer and will surprise a lot p teams.
3. Harlingen High. This team wil ride the arm of Keith. Just hope they don't wear him out early in the season.
4. EHS Bobcats. Have to forget about the fall and focus on the fundamentals of the game. It seams like they have a lot of pressure with a new coach this year. He needs to stop worrying about what people are saying and play the best players available to him.

32-5A

1. Lopez will be the best team in Cameron county. Best talent with a lot of experience. Stay healthy and they will go deep in the playoffs.
2.Porter. Still will have the talent without Henry to win a lot of games.
3. Hanna new coach will make the difference.
4. Weslaco. Never count these guys out.

Post your thoughts and comments on players and coaches.


i would put PSJA over EHS maybe even North

[punisher66]

i would put PSJA over EHS maybe even North

:agree: but you mean psja north

[Bobcat Pride]

Well, guys, I guess that's why the game must be played. Truth is, this is high school baseball. And the team that makes the most routine plays is going to win. Meaning, the team that has the least amount of errors will win. It's not where you start, but where you finish. You guys can make all the preseason hype you want. But as far as I'm concerned, EHS is the defending district champion. They are still the best until someone else knocks them off the top. Winter ball doesn't mean much because players are playing other sports like football and basketball.

[davi34]

:agree:
:agree: but you mean psja north


yea of course raiders

[davi34]

Well, guys, I guess that's why the game must be played. Truth is, this is high school baseball. And the team that makes the most routine plays is going to win. Meaning, the team that has the least amount of errors will win. It's not where you start, but where you finish. You guys can make all the preseason hype you want. But as far as I'm concerned, EHS is the defending district champion. They are still the best until someone else knocks them off the top. Winter ball doesn't mean much because players are playing other sports like football and basketball.

but they still lost a lot of their team and will struggle considering the district they are in

[84bobcat]

Well, guys, I guess that's why the game must be played. Truth is, this is high school baseball. And the team that makes the most routine plays is going to win. Meaning, the team that has the least amount of errors will win. It's not where you start, but where you finish. You guys can make all the preseason hype you want. But as far as I'm concerned, EHS is the defending district champion. They are still the best until someone else knocks them off the top. Winter ball doesn't mean much because players are playing other sports like football and basketball.

:agree: :agree: :agree:

[CiscoKid]

but they still lost a lot of their team and will struggle considering the district they are in
Bobcat pride: what players were they missing to basketball and football? I know the core kids Bubba, Casas and Fasci do not play any other sport. They will be fine as long as they can score runs and help there pitchers.

[davi34]

Does Harlingen still have the same catcher they had last year?

[EaglePower]

32-4A

1. Mission - Bringing back a good core group of players (Davila, Cantu, Jones, along with some new faces Rodriguez, De la Garza, Flores) will be tough to beat. Good coaching, and they have been working hard during the off season. Beat some good teams during the winter. They are my favorite for this district


:D Hey Davi, stop trying to show off your own team. :frolic::hi::batman:

[Bobcat Pride]

District 31-5A is a tough district. However, I think that 30-5A is even tougher. Year in and year out, you usually have 5 teams from this district in the top 5 of the Valley. With 4 playoff teams, 1 team always gets left out. La Joya opened up a new school, so they might not have as good as a team as in year's past. Those 5 teams from 30-5A that are usually ranked are La Joya, Sharyland, McHi, Rowe, and Rio Grande City. RGC and La Joya might be out this year.

Idk which players were missing due to football and basketball, but I'm sure some were.

[Bobcat Pride]

I don't know if Edinburg will be as dominant as last year (14-0) but I do believe EHS will again compete for District Championship. Look @ basketball, everyone said that EHS would struggle because Filo was no longer the coach. They went to the sweet 16 last year. Cuellar steps in and has them @ 5-0 right now. The best coach was hired in both cases and the team will be fine.

[CiscoKid]

I don't know if Edinburg will be as dominant as last year (14-0) but I do believe EHS will again compete for District Championship. Look @ basketball, everyone said that EHS would struggle because Filo was no longer the coach. They went to the sweet 16 last year. Cuellar steps in and has them @ 5-0 right now. The best coach was hired in both cases and the team will be fine.

They went 14-0 with Coach Kaz at the helm. But why would you change a coach that did not retire or quit. Are you sure that the best coach was hired in baseball? Never saw McAllen Memorial in the playoffs under Coach Valdez. Politcs and parents got involved in that deal. That's a different subject in its self. The Bobcats will be fine. They have 2 outstanding pitchers in Bubba and Austin. With the addition of Fasci in the OF and pitching who could come in to close out the game. The other players will have to step it up if they want to make a run at district or make the playoffs. Could be there last year to make the playoffs as they will be losing some pretty good seniors.

[Bobcat Pride]

Actually, last year's team was a disappointment. It was a senior led ball club that had been to the playoffs a year before and lost to porter in bi-district. They went 14-0 in district, but many, like myself, expected them to be playing in the state finals like harlingen south the year before. or at least the regional tournament. They didn't make it that far. Maybe other people in Edinburg felt the exact same way and that is why a new coach was hired.

Just out of curiousity, ciscokid, what team do you support? do you support a team? or are you just an armchair quarterback that criticizes everything?

[CiscoKid]

Actually, last year's team was a disappointment. It was a senior led ball club that had been to the playoffs a year before and lost to porter in bi-district. They went 14-0 in district, but many, like myself, expected them to be playing in the state finals like harlingen south the year before. or at least the regional tournament. They didn't make it that far. Maybe other people in Edinburg felt the exact same way and that is why a new coach was hired.

Just out of curiousity, ciscokid, what team do you support? do you support a team? or are you just an armchair quarterback that criticizes everything?

Ahhh Pride, Why did you have to go and take off the gloves! It seems to me that you are the armchair quarterback. You don't even know what kids are playing football, basketball. I support the Edinburg teams! I know and have coached players on all 3 teams. I have friends on all 3 teams. My main support will be for ENHS as I have my sons playing for that team, but I wish the best of luck to all the teams in Edinburg. You seem to be stuck on just one team which it sounds like to me you have no idea about. You probably cannot even name all the players while i can name all the players for all 3 teams in Edinburg, Sharyland, Mission,MCI,Rowe, Raiders,Mercedes,Harlingen. I take pride in trying to help the kids trying to play the next level and will extend my hand in anyway to hepl them.
It seems to me that you only know that the team underachieved last year with a Senior club. Were you on the field coaching?Were you on the field playing 3rd base. How can you say that the Bobcats underachieved when they went 14-0 in district and loss to a powerhorse team of Sharyland. I attended those games and was the cats give it everything theyt had! 100%! You tell those kids that they underachieved to their faces. As long as you can tell yourself that you gave it 100% in the game, you will NEVER UNDERACHIEVE! Get off your rear and go watch the games if you really want to take pride in your school!

[Chicano]

Ahhh Pride, Why did you have to go and take off the gloves! It seems to me that you are the armchair quarterback. You don't even know what kids are playing football, basketball. I support the Edinburg teams! I know and have coached players on all 3 teams. I have friends on all 3 teams. My main support will be for ENHS as I have my sons playing for that team, but I wish the best of luck to all the teams in Edinburg. You seem to be stuck on just one team which it sounds like to me you have no idea about. You probably cannot even name all the players while i can name all the players for all 3 teams in Edinburg, Sharyland, Mission,MCI,Rowe, Raiders,Mercedes,Harlingen. I take pride in trying to help the kids trying to play the next level and will extend my hand in anyway to hepl them.
It seems to me that you only know that the team underachieved last year with a Senior club. Were you on the field coaching?Were you on the field playing 3rd base. How can you say that the Bobcats underachieved when they went 14-0 in district and loss to a powerhorse team of Sharyland. I attended those games and was the cats give it everything theyt had! 100%! You tell those kids that they underachieved to their faces. As long as you can tell yourself that you gave it 100% in the game, you will NEVER UNDERACHIEVE! Get off your rear and go watch the games if you really want to take pride in your school!



Agreed... Very Cisco

[punisher66]

Ahhh Pride, Why did you have to go and take off the gloves! It seems to me that you are the armchair quarterback. You don't even know what kids are playing football, basketball. I support the Edinburg teams! I know and have coached players on all 3 teams. I have friends on all 3 teams. My main support will be for ENHS as I have my sons playing for that team, but I wish the best of luck to all the teams in Edinburg. You seem to be stuck on just one team which it sounds like to me you have no idea about. You probably cannot even name all the players while i can name all the players for all 3 teams in Edinburg, Sharyland, Mission,MCI,Rowe, Raiders,Mercedes,Harlingen. I take pride in trying to help the kids trying to play the next level and will extend my hand in anyway to hepl them.
It seems to me that you only know that the team underachieved last year with a Senior club. Were you on the field coaching?Were you on the field playing 3rd base. How can you say that the Bobcats underachieved when they went 14-0 in district and loss to a powerhorse team of Sharyland. I attended those games and was the cats give it everything theyt had! 100%! You tell those kids that they underachieved to their faces. As long as you can tell yourself that you gave it 100% in the game, you will NEVER UNDERACHIEVE! Get off your rear and go watch the games if you really want to take pride in your school!

:agree::agree::agree:well said

[Bobcat Pride]

I never said that those kids underachieved. I used the term disappointment. Lots of people were disappointed with the loss to Sharyland in the area round of the playoffs. With that ball club, expectations were high. It obviously wasn't the kids' fault. They did not lose the game because of athletic ability. While 14-0 is impressive for the valley, there are some of us that like to think about bigger things like state championships. It seems to me that you only want to be the best in the valley. Why not try and be the best team in the state? If that is Edinburg North's mentality (your son's team), then I say good luck to them. Some kids are taught to work for bigger things, like deep playoff runs.

I support Edinburg teams. I do not come on here and bash the hiring of a coach. I don't come on here and say that this team lost a core of players and isn't gonna make the playoffs anymore. While you say that you work with kids, I wouldn't want my kids to be taught to be complacent with being the best in the Valley.

[Bobcat Pride]

Oh yeah, you don't have to use your multiple accounts to have people agree with you.

[CiscoKid]

Oh yeah, you don't have to use your multiple accounts to have people agree with you.

You got alot of fire there big boy. I don't know you and you don't know me! But it seems to me that you have no idea about sports. It sounds to me like you never played a sport but want to make a big splash on the forum. Your the reason the valley teams will never win a State Playoff game. Lets knock each other down instead of helping each other up the mountain. Once you found out that I had a kid on the Cougars the claws came out. Admit it pride. You believe the only real school in Edinburg is red and blue. NOT Navy and Gold or Orange and Blue. Why dont you get up off your rear and actually go coach a team instead of complaining about the situation. Have you ever coached a team pride? Have you ever volunteered your time to help someone else other than yourself. Change your name Pride. Because you dont take pride in the kids...

[Bobcat Pride]

Alright, kid, since that's what you are. A kid. Parents like you are the problem with athletics in Edinburg. You think you are god's gift to baseball and know so much. Wow, you can name all the baseball players on teams in Edinburg, Mcallen, Sharyland, Mercedes, and Harlingen. How does that make you qualified to coach? You know names? Big whoop. You try and help them play @ the next level. What do you do? Coach from the stands. Volunteer your time to not teach them the fundamentals you learned from a book. While some are dreaming of playing @ the next level, there are those of us that have played @ the next level. Guess what? Parents have no say @ the next level. It's what the coach wants. How can you expect these kids to play @ the next level when you cloud their judgement?

I'm not knocking you down. You're doing a pretty good job of that by yourself. :cry: LOL

[CiscoKid]

Alright, kid, since that's what you are. A kid. Parents like you are the problem with athletics in Edinburg. You think you are god's gift to baseball and know so much. Wow, you can name all the baseball players on teams in Edinburg, Mcallen, Sharyland, Mercedes, and Harlingen. How does that make you qualified to coach? You know names? Big whoop. You try and help them play @ the next level. What do you do? Coach from the stands. Volunteer your time to not teach them the fundamentals you learned from a book. While some are dreaming of playing @ the next level, there are those of us that have played @ the next level. Guess what? Parents have no say @ the next level. It's what the coach wants. How can you expect these kids to play @ the next level when you cloud their judgement?

I'm not knocking you down. You're doing a pretty good job of that by yourself. :cry: LOL

Wow Pride! You sound like a 2 year old who's not getting there candy. Get over yourself. I doubt it very much if you played past t-ball in baseball. We will stop here unless you want to keep going. It's amazing how you got so rowled up over nothing. Let's get back to posting the positive things about baseball unless you want to take this further.

[Chicano]

Wow Pride! You sound like a 2 year old who's not getting there candy. Get over yourself. I doubt it very much if you played past t-ball in baseball. We will stop here unless you want to keep going. It's amazing how you got so rowled up over nothing. Let's get back to posting the positive things about baseball unless you want to take this further.

Agreed Cisco... and I'm on your side... and *edit*

[davi34]

I will have to agree with ciso here on this one but this little bickering has to end. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but all downgrading the players is not something we should be doing. Cisco is extremely correct about valley teams not being able to win in big championship games. Maybe if the community were a bit more positive we might get somewhere. Look at the RGV Colt All Stars World Champs. And Cisco what u do for the city of Edinburg and ENHS is great only a select few put in the time and have a love for the game that u do.

From a Mission kid Thank You for doing what u do

[CiscoKid]

Thank You Davi! Good luck this year and keep working hard to reach your goal.I don't know what got into pride, he really doesn't like anybody from the cougars. But I will ignore his comments and I will keep posting new and information about local baseball. By the way, Congrats tol Adam Pena for signing with San Jacinto. They are always on top in the rankings for Junior colleges. Good luck to Adam and make the valley proud.

[XavierRattler]

Alright, so I heard from a coleague of mine that people like to talk about a program I know very well. That talking has to be positive because we are not judgmental of your team. Baseball season commences in less than 3 weeks. Let's focus our efforts on helping our youth.

[Bobcat Pride]

Contrary to popular belief, I do not have a son and I have not downgraded or posted negative comments about kids. Where have I done that? someone please show me. I have nothing against the cougars. Quit taking things so personal, Ciscokid. I did not respond to your last comment cuz i thought you going to let it die.

But then you go and make a stupid comment about me having something against the Cougars.

I have criticized Ciscokid and his mentality about winning small time district championships, not any players. Truth of the matter is I don't know any of the players names, but I did see some winter league games. And that is what I was basing my opinions on. I was basing it on Talent, not name recognition. Do you know what talent is?

Here is the truth of the matter, kid. Summer/Winter ball don't mean squat. Your select team means squat. During the course of the spring, students fail. students get hurt. This alters the team and the team chemistry. Other players have to be able to step up. Players that usually not on select teams. This is where actual coaching comes into play. Therefore, who knows what is gonna happen?
What alters team chemistry in the summer teams? someone going on vacation? What pressure does a player have? he doesn't have to worry about school. he doesn't have to worry about passing classes. everyone is eligible and can play every game. Point proven.

[84bobcat]

Agreed Cisco... and I'm on your side... and BobcatPride only cares about his son getting a ride somewhere.. he doesnt TRUELY care about the Bobcats... we all know that----> Fasci... WE ALL KNOW THAT.. so.. YOU ADMIT IT and.. have some balls for once and say you really only care about your kid getting his sweet ride to Pan Am... because.... I know you and you know me but you'll never know who I'am here....

Why are you bringing me into this again? Fasci was at Texas A&M Laredo yesterday, he has onyl verbally committed to UTPA, it's a non-binding commitment. UTPA has made their offer, and it will not change due to the limit on roster spots, number of graduating seniors this season, and the availability of scholorships. Fasci is my kid not Bobcat Prides. Dude, you speak but you don't know the facts and make a jerk out of yourself. I don't hide in this forum, I have only mentioned David in defense to what negative things you have said about him. I care about alot of kids not just David, and if you ask some of the kids that know me, at one time or another I have done things to help them. Wether it be a compliment on a play or game, or to give them some reassurance after a bad game/play (everyone has bad days). You Tube, my page is 84bobcat, my email address is 84bobcat, several people on this forum know who I am, I do not hide. Your the one hiding. Be a man, leave the kid out of this.
:dead horse:

[84bobcat]

I will have to agree with ciso here on this one but this little bickering has to end. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but all downgrading the players is not something we should be doing. Cisco is extremely correct about valley teams not being able to win in big championship games. Maybe if the community were a bit more positive we might get somewhere. Look at the RGV Colt All Stars World Champs. And Cisco what u do for the city of Edinburg and ENHS is great only a select few put in the time and have a love for the game that u do.

From a Mission kid Thank You for doing what u do

:agree::agree:

[84bobcat]

Thank You Davi! Good luck this year and keep working hard to reach your goal.I don't know what got into pride, he really doesn't like anybody from the cougars. But I will ignore his comments and I will keep posting new and information about local baseball. By the way, Congrats tol Adam Pena for signing with San Jacinto. They are always on top in the rankings for Junior colleges. Good luck to Adam and make the valley proud.

Wow, I thought he was going to Texas State, but San Jac, lots of pros have come out of there. Good For Adam.:rock:

[84bobcat]

Alright, so I heard from a coleague of mine that people like to talk about a program I know very well. That talking has to be positive because we are not judgmental of your team. Baseball season commences in less than 3 weeks. Let's focus our efforts on helping our youth.


Yea, lets please keep it positive, for the kids sake.

[Bobcat Pride]

That's what I'm talking about, keeping it positive. Hey, 84bobcat, as a former player that was recruited to play out of high school. Tell your son not to let all this trash talking get to him. An umpire once told me some great advice. I'll never forget it... Some guys were talking smack to me during a game in high school my junior year, which was quite some years ago. LOL I let my emotions get to me, and respond to their mouthing off. The umpire turned to me and said, "Don't stoop to their level. They talk trash to you out of respect. They wish scouts/college coaches were coming to see them." That advice stuck with me and I never paid attention to what trash players talked during a game. Maybe this advise will help your son out.

[84bobcat]

That's what I'm talking about, keeping it positive. Hey, 84bobcat, as a former player that was recruited to play out of high school. Tell your son not to let all this trash talking get to him. An umpire once told me some great advice. I'll never forget it... Some guys were talking smack to me during a game in high school my junior year, which was quite some years ago. LOL I let my emotions get to me, and respond to their mouthing off. The umpire turned to me and said, "Don't stoop to their level. They talk trash to you out of respect. They wish scouts/college coaches were coming to see them." That advice stuck with me and I never paid attention to what trash players talked during a game. Maybe this advise will help your son out.


Luckiy, he is a tough kid, but having to have moved around as much as he/we have, it's always been this way. He has always had to work twice has hard to earn his teammates respect. That extra work (in my opinion) has paid off. Thanks again.

[CiscoKid]

Contrary to popular belief, I do not have a son and I have not downgraded or posted negative comments about kids. Where have I done that? someone please show me. I have nothing against the cougars. Quit taking things so personal, Ciscokid. I did not respond to your last comment cuz i thought you going to let it die.

But then you go and make a stupid comment about me having something against the Cougars.

I have criticized Ciscokid and his mentality about winning small time district championships, not any players. Truth of the matter is I don't know any of the players names, but I did see some winter league games. And that is what I was basing my opinions on. I was basing it on Talent, not name recognition. Do you know what talent is?

Here is the truth of the matter, kid. Summer/Winter ball don't mean squat. Your select team means squat. During the course of the spring, students fail. students get hurt. This alters the team and the team chemistry. Other players have to be able to step up. Players that usually not on select teams. This is where actual coaching comes into play. Therefore, who knows what is gonna happen?
What alters team chemistry in the summer teams? someone going on vacation? What pressure does a player have? he doesn't have to worry about school. he doesn't have to worry about passing classes. everyone is eligible and can play every game. Point proven.
Will have to disagree with you on this matter Pride. But I do not want to get into another spat with you. Just want to voice my opinion on this matter. In the summer/fall leagues is where many baseball players get an opportunity to be seen by college scouts and pro scouts. Many Valley players play with different select teams from Houston,San Antonio and Dallas. This gives them an opportunity to showcase there skills in some really tough competition. Unfortunately college and pro scouts due do not come down to the Valley. So we have to take the players where they are located. Even Miguel Pena with all of his talent has decided to stay in the Houston area to be scouted by more teams. There is alot of pressure on these kids during the summer, usually you are playing with kids from different cities and are just as talented as you are. Pitchers are facing a lineup of kids that can all hit or a pitcher bringing 90 plus or junk that would break your knees. This is what will bring a Baseball State Championship to the Valley because of the mentallity of those players that our kids are playing with. Those kids from the north pick each other up, they support there team mates no matter who you are. The parents cheer for all the kids no matter who you are. This is the support that all of our valley teams need. Im not saying its an Anglo thing, but Hispanics have a tendency to bring ea other down and the Anglo's try to pick each other up. We were fortunate enough to play with a team from SA. We traveled to LSU, Texas A&M, Blinn, Navarro, Texas State and Corpus Christi A&M. I believe that any player that gets an opportunity to do this should take that advanatage and bring it back to his HS team to build some good chemistry. Dont knock summer or fall teams, its the off-season that will bring a State Championship to the Valley.

[davi34]

Will have to disagree with you on this matter Pride. But I do not want to get into another spat with you. Just want to voice my opinion on this matter. In the summer/fall leagues is where many baseball players get an opportunity to be seen by college scouts and pro scouts. Many Valley players play with different select teams from Houston,San Antonio and Dallas. This gives them an opportunity to showcase there skills in some really tough competition. Unfortunately college and pro scouts due do not come down to the Valley. So we have to take the players where they are located. Even Miguel Pena with all of his talent has decided to stay in the Houston area to be scouted by more teams. There is alot of pressure on these kids during the summer, usually you are playing with kids from different cities and are just as talented as you are. Pitchers are facing a lineup of kids that can all hit or a pitcher bringing 90 plus or junk that would break your knees. This is what will bring a Baseball State Championship to the Valley because of the mentallity of those players that our kids are playing with. Those kids from the north pick each other up, they support there team mates no matter who you are. The parents cheer for all the kids no matter who you are. This is the support that all of our valley teams need. Im not saying its an Anglo thing, but Hispanics have a tendency to bring ea other down and the Anglo's try to pick each other up. We were fortunate enough to play with a team from SA. We traveled to LSU, Texas A&M, Blinn, Navarro, Texas State and Corpus Christi A&M. I believe that any player that gets an opportunity to do this should take that advanatage and bring it back to his HS team to build some good chemistry. Dont knock summer or fall teams, its the off-season that will bring a State Championship to the Valley.


:agree::agree::agree:

[eyeofthetiger]

Will have to disagree with you on this matter Pride. But I do not want to get into another spat with you. Just want to voice my opinion on this matter. In the summer/fall leagues is where many baseball players get an opportunity to be seen by college scouts and pro scouts. Many Valley players play with different select teams from Houston,San Antonio and Dallas. This gives them an opportunity to showcase there skills in some really tough competition. Unfortunately college and pro scouts due do not come down to the Valley. So we have to take the players where they are located. Even Miguel Pena with all of his talent has decided to stay in the Houston area to be scouted by more teams. There is alot of pressure on these kids during the summer, usually you are playing with kids from different cities and are just as talented as you are. Pitchers are facing a lineup of kids that can all hit or a pitcher bringing 90 plus or junk that would break your knees. This is what will bring a Baseball State Championship to the Valley because of the mentallity of those players that our kids are playing with. Those kids from the north pick each other up, they support there team mates no matter who you are. The parents cheer for all the kids no matter who you are. This is the support that all of our valley teams need. Im not saying its an Anglo thing, but Hispanics have a tendency to bring ea other down and the Anglo's try to pick each other up. We were fortunate enough to play with a team from SA. We traveled to LSU, Texas A&M, Blinn, Navarro, Texas State and Corpus Christi A&M. I believe that any player that gets an opportunity to do this should take that advanatage and bring it back to his HS team to build some good chemistry. Dont knock summer or fall teams, its the off-season that will bring a State Championship to the Valley.


I could not agree more.....

we decided to forego playing with the highschool team during winter/summer ball and playing on a select team that played exclusively up north......

best decision we ever made.....it improved her skills against high school teams during the spring and got her a JUCO scholarship after graduation.....

she learned more during the winter/summer then she would have ever learned during the high school season.....

not because of coaching so much but because of the quality of pitchers she faced..... and the hitters she had to defend as well...

[Bobcat Pride]

While the points you make are valid. You can't compare a select team to a regular high school team. In a select team, practically every player there knows how to play and is usually coached in the fundamentals of the game. Coaching a group of select players is easy. Anybody can coach them. However, this forum is about high school baseball. And in high school baseball teams are selected from the enrollment of the school. Therefore, coaches have to sometimes play kids that do not play baseball all the time. They have to work with these kids. They must play with the cards they are dealt, so to speak. I have the utmost repsect for high school coaches because year in and year out they have to try and make a winner out of kids in their school. If they don't, they sometimes lose their job for it.

While I agree with you about traveling to get kids recognized and seen by college scouts. Heck, when I was in school, I would play with a select team from Houston to get the exposure. Back in those days, there weren't select teams in the Valley. This did make a world of difference and get me some recognition. However, when i played with my high school team, things were different because other players on the team weren't members of the select team. I didn't have a 6'4" pitcher throwing 90+ on the mound. I tend to disagree with you about a teams season being determined by how their kids did on a select team. Anybody can coach a select team and probably win a few games, here and there. So, before you come on a forum and start bashing coaches, think about what they have to work with and their situation. You wanna talk about volunteering and helping someone out. Go volunteer @ a high school during the season. Go offer to throw batting practice. That is supporting a team more than working with a select team.

[XavierRattler]

Luckiy, he is a tough kid, but having to have moved around as much as he/we have, it's always been this way. He has always had to work twice has hard to earn his teammates respect. That extra work (in my opinion) has paid off. Thanks again.

I thought BobcatPride and 84Bobcat were the same person with different screen names? Hmm... something tells me it might be true. Well it is true because his IP address matches for both Usernames out of the same WAN

[Bobcat Pride]

They went 14-0 with Coach Kaz at the helm. But why would you change a coach that did not retire or quit. Are you sure that the best coach was hired in baseball? Never saw McAllen Memorial in the playoffs under Coach Valdez. Politcs and parents got involved in that deal.


Thank you Chicano. Edinburg North is not Edinburg High. Unfortunately tradition can not over come talent. See Football.. Unfortunately the politics in Edinburg did not allow coach K to be the head coach. He earned that position going 14-0 in district last year.

Time to break down ea district.

31-5A

1. ENHS. This could be the year for this team. Tough losses against Porter and the Bobcats last year have given this senior group a lot to play for this year. Most of these kids have plyed together since Mustang ball.
2. Psja Raiders. This team has become a true team. They have worked hard this summer and will surprise a lot p teams.
3. Harlingen High. This team wil ride the arm of Keith. Just hope they don't wear him out early in the season.
4. EHS Bobcats. Have to forget about the fall and focus on the fundamentals of the game. It seams like they have a lot of pressure with a new coach this year. He needs to stop worrying about what people are saying and play the best players available to him.


Is this what you call being positive? Why criticize the coach when he hasn't even coached a regular season game yet? A wise man would wait until their first regular season game before criticizing a coach. or a team.

Good job, Cisco, way to post positive comments. REMOVE FOOT FROM MOUTH IN 5...... 4...... 3..... 2..... 1.....

[84bobcat]

I thought BobcatPride and 84Bobcat were the same person with different screen names? Hmm... something tells me it might be true. Well it is true because his IP address matches for both Usernames out of the same WAN

Man you are way off, first off, how can you see my ip address? and to say we are on the WAN is totally off. Is that you chicano? I think so, being you just became a member yesterday.

[84bobcat]

Guys, chill out, just agree to disagree. Besides, Edinburg as a whole has Baseball Talent, the issue of off season, and Select is a non-issue. On any given day a select team can beat a summer/fall team and vice versa. Voluneering of time in any capacity to a team or an individual is greatly appreacited, not only by the reciever, but fans as well because it make sthe games better. Both of you have valid points.

[84bobcat]

Man this thread has 100 Posts and the season has not even started! :rock:

[CiscoKid]

Is this what you call being positive? Why criticize the coach when he hasn't even coached a regular season game yet? A wise man would wait until their first regular season game before criticizing a coach. or a team.

Good job, Cisco, way to post positive comments. REMOVE FOOT FROM MOUTH IN 5...... 4...... 3..... 2..... 1.....

You just can't leave things alone Pride. You just sit there and collect your welfare check and talk about things you know nothing about. Then you get jealous because everone agrees with me and not you. I think you need to grow up and just leave things alone unless you want to settle this the old fashion way.

[Bobcat Pride]

:muaha:

Oh, did someone get their feelings hurt? I had already left it alone. But somebody, you, has to go and start calling people names and criticizing them. Now, you are wanting to settle things the old fashioned way? LOL You set a mighty fine example to those kids you work with, don't you?

Go ahead and call me names. Go ahead and think whatever you want. Like I have already stated. Like I told Bobcat84, "They do it out of respect." There are those of us who have been there and done that. Some of us have played at the next level. And then, there are those of us who try and live vicariously through our children.

[CiscoKid]

:muaha:

Oh, did someone get their feelings hurt? I had already left it alone. But somebody, you, has to go and start calling people names and criticizing them. Now, you are wanting to settle things the old fashioned way? LOL You set a mighty fine example to those kids you work with, don't you?

Go ahead and call me names. Go ahead and think whatever you want. Like I have already stated. Like I told Bobcat84, "They do it out of respect." There are those of us who have been there and done that. Some of us have played at the next level. And then, there are those of us who try and live vicariously through our children.

Your so funny Pride! Please let all of us know that have never played the next level. Who did you play for? You seem to be the man! You seem to have all the answers and all the extra time to find all the quotes. Now you do understand playing your X-Box is not playing the next level. So please tell all the Al Bundy's of the world where the MIGHTY BOBCAT PRIDE played his college pro career......

[Bobcat Pride]

Anyone that knows Valley baseball and the history of Valley baseball should know that most Valley baseball players go and play @ Pan Am. If you knew so much about baseball, you would know that Edinburg has had quite a bit of players that have gone and played there. There have even been some players from Edinburg North play @ Pan Am. There's even one on the squad this year. You should know that. Why don't you look up the list of Edinburg alumni and see for yourself? It'll give you something to do besides boosting your ego with how much you do for kids. LOL

Here are a quick 5 players off the top of my head that have played @ pan am.

Fernie de la Garza
Javier Badillo
Jaime Alvarado
Mike Duffey
Rick Villarreal
Louie Alamia
Phillip Rodriguez
Oziel Ortiz
Aaron Guerra
Ruben Shives

That's 5 older players and 5 younger players (in hopes of giving current players something to reach for. It is possible.) 3 on that list are even from Edinburg North.

[CiscoKid]

Anyone that knows Valley baseball and the history of Valley baseball should know that most Valley baseball players go and play @ Pan Am. If you knew so much about baseball, you would know that Edinburg has had quite a bit of players that have gone and played there. There have even been some players from Edinburg North play @ Pan Am. There's even one on the squad this year. You should know that. Why don't you look up the list of Edinburg alumni and see for yourself? It'll give you something to do besides boosting your ego with how much you do for kids. LOL

Here are a quick 5 players off the top of my head that have played @ pan am.

Fernie de la Garza
Javier Badillo
Jaime Alvarado
Mike Duffey
Rick Villarreal
Louie Alamia
Phillip Rodriguez
Oziel Ortiz
Aaron Guerra
Ruben Shives

That's 5 older players and 5 younger players (in hopes of giving current players something to reach for. It is possible.) 3 on that list are even from Edinburg North.
We will stop it here Pride. I personally know several of those players and you may be one of those. Let's agree to disagree. I may not agree with all of your post and you may not agree with mine but that's why we live in the greatest country. I have a feeling you did not place your name on that list but that's ok. Did you play ball with Alvarado? We will call it a truce for now in the best interest in baseball since we both have a passion for that.

[Bobcat Pride]

Agreed. It will stop here. Back to the top 10. When does baseball officially start? When is the first day of practice?

[CiscoKid]

Agreed. It will stop here. Back to the top 10. When does baseball officially start? When is the first day of practice?

January 30th. 1st scrimmages on the 9th and 10th.

[84bobcat]

Good Going Cisco & Pride. Can not wait for the games!:frolic:

[84bobcat]

I think the teams that will do best are the ones in which the 9 players who play best together take the field. Not the best nine. Just my opinon.

[MorristheCat]

Weslaco Panthers

Feb. 14 - Laredo United
Feb. 17 - Harlingen
Feb. 21 - Robstown
Feb. 23 - Sharyland


Yikes!!!!!!!!:surrender:

[rgvsn]

Hey, stop this now before I kill the post. No Vendettas. You are all acting like Dave Amador.

[BUEY]

Robert Valdez is doing a hellacious job at EHS. He has them boys thinking state title. Keep up the good work Coach.

[84bobcat]

Weslaco Panthers

Feb. 14 - Laredo United
Feb. 17 - Harlingen
Feb. 21 - Robstown
Feb. 23 - Sharyland


Yikes!!!!!!!!:surrender:

Best of luck to those guys.

[84bobcat]

Hey, stop this now before I kill the post. No Vendettas. You are all acting like Dave Amador.

I think both are men of their word and will honor each other the rest of the season. Who is Dave Amador?

[84bobcat]

Robert Valdez is doing a hellacious job at EHS. He has them boys thinking state title. Keep up the good work Coach.

Yes he is, now it is up to the kids to come together, I am positive it will happen.

:agree: :agree: :agree:

[84bobcat]

Anyone that knows Valley baseball and the history of Valley baseball should know that most Valley baseball players go and play @ Pan Am. If you knew so much about baseball, you would know that Edinburg has had quite a bit of players that have gone and played there. There have even been some players from Edinburg North play @ Pan Am. There's even one on the squad this year. You should know that. Why don't you look up the list of Edinburg alumni and see for yourself? It'll give you something to do besides boosting your ego with how much you do for kids. LOL

Here are a quick 5 players off the top of my head that have played @ pan am.

Fernie de la Garza
Javier Badillo
Jaime Alvarado
Mike Duffey
Rick Villarreal
Louie Alamia
Phillip Rodriguez
Oziel Ortiz
Aaron Guerra
Ruben Shives

That's 5 older players and 5 younger players (in hopes of giving current players something to reach for. It is possible.) 3 on that list are even from Edinburg North.


Santana Garza
Donato Salinas
Eddie Alvarado
Kevin Tredaway
Robert Valdez
Richard Alamia
And This Year Eli de la Garza.

[CiscoKid]

Santana Garza
Donato Salinas
Eddie Alvarado
Kevin Tredaway
Robert Valdez
Richard Alamia
And This Year Eli de la Garza.

Lets all get out and Support the new program at UTPA Baseball. UTPA has broke there old ways and brought in a new dynamic coach by the name of Coach Mantrana. Lets get the local suppport and come out and watch some games and support the local kids who have decided to attend UTPA.
Let's not forget the other Valley college team: The Scorpions are playing there 1st home game next Friday. They have several valley players on the roster and even Gidora is back with them. Plus they play against UTPA sometime this season. That should be a good game. Why do I have the feeling that Gidora will pitch against Pan AM. Lets get the word out.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Will have to disagree with you on this matter Pride. But I do not want to get into another spat with you. Just want to voice my opinion on this matter. In the summer/fall leagues is where many baseball players get an opportunity to be seen by college scouts and pro scouts. Many Valley players play with different select teams from Houston,San Antonio and Dallas. This gives them an opportunity to showcase there skills in some really tough competition. Unfortunately college and pro scouts due do not come down to the Valley. So we have to take the players where they are located. Even Miguel Pena with all of his talent has decided to stay in the Houston area to be scouted by more teams. There is alot of pressure on these kids during the summer, usually you are playing with kids from different cities and are just as talented as you are. Pitchers are facing a lineup of kids that can all hit or a pitcher bringing 90 plus or junk that would break your knees. This is what will bring a Baseball State Championship to the Valley because of the mentallity of those players that our kids are playing with. Those kids from the north pick each other up, they support there team mates no matter who you are. The parents cheer for all the kids no matter who you are. This is the support that all of our valley teams need. Im not saying its an Anglo thing, but Hispanics have a tendency to bring ea other down and the Anglo's try to pick each other up. We were fortunate enough to play with a team from SA. We traveled to LSU, Texas A&M, Blinn, Navarro, Texas State and Corpus Christi A&M. I believe that any player that gets an opportunity to do this should take that advanatage and bring it back to his HS team to build some good chemistry. Dont knock summer or fall teams, its the off-season that will bring a State Championship to the Valley.off-season winter ball dont bring state championships! It will fine tune a individual player skills but you win state championships as a team not with individuals playing to be scouted. Team chemistry and defense wins playoff games.

[blater]

1. Mchi
2.Sharyland
3.N. Rowe
4.edignburg n.
5.lopez
6.Psja n.
7.weslaco
8.mission
9.edignburg
10. la joya palmview

[redcap]

All i know from what i have seen on the field is Mission High will be a tough team to beat with six guys returning who are good players (Davila,cantu,flores,delagarza,rodriguez,jones,) they will be a tough team to beat this year. I feel mission will win a third district championship in the 4a district no question about it.

[davi34]

1. Mchi
2.Sharyland
3.N. Rowe
4.edignburg n.
5.lopez
6.Psja n.
7.weslaco
8.mission
9.edignburg
10. la joya palmview

I really like this top ten maybe move mission up a spot or two and drop palmview and add one of the Brownsville schools im pretty sure they have better players than palmview plus palmview is a first year school it will be tough for them

[redcap]

Davi i feel the same way psja n is a good team but i heard misison beat them pretty bad the last time they faced each other. There for i would put mission six or five hole.

[tpa1121]

1. Mchi
2. Shary
3. ENHS
4. Lopez
5. Rowe
6. Weslaco
7. Mission
8. Psja N.
9. La Joya
10. Psja

[Bobcat Pride]

Here is a list of Pan Am's home games. I copied and pasted it from bronc webpage.

2008-2009 SCHEDULE

Date Opponent / Event Location Time/Result
02/27/09 Illinois Edinburg Baseball Stadium 7:00 p.m. CT
02/28/09 Texas-Arlington Edinburg Baseball Stadium 7:00 p.m. CT
03/01/09 Stephen F. Austin Edinburg Baseball Stadium 1:00 p.m. CT
03/03/09 Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (DH) Edinburg Baseball Stadium 3:00 p.m. CT

03/16/09 Jackson State Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:00 p.m. CT
03/17/09 Jackson State Edinburg Baseball Stadium 3:00 p.m. CT
03/21/09 Prairie View A&M (DH) Edinburg Baseball Stadium 1:00 p.m. CT
03/22/09 Prairie View A&M Edinburg Baseball Stadium 1:00 p.m. CT

03/26/09 New Mexico State Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:00 p.m. CT
03/27/09 New Mexico State Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:00 p.m. CT
03/28/09 New Mexico State Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:00 p.m. CT

04/08/09 UT-Brownsville Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:00 p.m. CT
04/09/09 TCU Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:30 p.m. CT
04/10/09 TCU Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:30 p.m. CT
04/11/09 TCU Edinburg Baseball Stadium 12:00 p.m. CT
04/18/09 Texas Southern (DH) Edinburg Baseball Stadium 3:00 p.m. CT
04/19/09 Texas Southern Edinburg Baseball Stadium 1:00 p.m. CT
04/21/09 Texas-San Antonio Edinburg Baseball Stadium 3:00 p.m. CT
04/22/09 UT-Brownsville Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:00 p.m. CT
04/28/09 Texas A&M-Corpus Christi Edinburg Baseball Stadium 6:00 p.m. CT

National Independent Tournament
05/20/09 TBA Edinburg, TX TBA
05/21/09 TBA Edinburg, TX TBA
05/22/09 TBA Edinburg, TX TBA
05/23/09 TBA Edinburg, TX TBA
05/24/09 TBA Edinburg, TX TBA

[Bobcat Pride]

LOL about the David Amador comment. You guys are too funny.

[CiscoKid]

LOL about the David Amador comment. You guys are too funny.

This board got boring after Israel ( CiscoKid) and the Palastanians ( Bobcat Pride) went into a cease fire.:

[Bobcat Pride]

The cease fire will stop after Barack Obama is in office. LOL The reason for the cease fire is Martin Luther King Day and Barrack Obama Day. Next Friday baseball season starts. I can't wait.

[CiscoKid]

The cease fire will stop after Barack Obama is in office. LOL The reason for the cease fire is Martin Luther King Day and Barrack Obama Day. Next Friday baseball season starts. I can't wait.

Should be a good year Pride. Dont forget that the Scorpions are in action next Friday.

[north kameron]

When do those Matamoros little league world finalists start getting to Brownsville high schools??

Which Brownsville school get who?

[84bobcat]

LOL about the David Amador comment. You guys are too funny.

Please let me in on the joke. I love a good rag.

[lobo_42]

When do those Matamoros little league world finalists start getting to Brownsville high schools??

Which Brownsville school get who?

I think they're in 8th grade? I'm not sure.

[BigPapi21]

Lopez returns 8 starters, plus some key role players that come off the bench, Look for lopez to make another strong run in the playoffs as they attempt to achieve what no team has done before. WIN STATE!!! :cheers::mad2:

[84bobcat]

Lopez returns 8 starters, plus some key role players that come off the bench, Look for lopez to make another strong run in the playoffs as they attempt to achieve what no team has done before. WIN STATE!!! :cheers::mad2:

Best of luck to them, it would be nice to show the State the talent we have down here, wether it's Lopez or another team making it to Round Rock. :agree:

[Bobcat Pride]

The Monitor is releasing a Softball preview in this Sunday's edition. Any idea on when the Baseball preview comes out? Anybody wanna revamp their top 10?

[BUCWHEAT]

Hey, I just joined today. I've been reading some old posts and don't know if I can stay up with you boys, but, now your going to have some Sharyland comments.
I noticed that NO one picked Shary to go 1st. Well it should be a fun year to watch some good baseball. I think Shary and McHigh will be a heck of a game these boys have been playing with, and against each other for years.

[CiscoKid]

Hey, I just joined today. I've been reading some old posts and don't know if I can stay up with you boys, but, now your going to have some Sharyland comments.
I noticed that NO one picked Shary to go 1st. Well it should be a fun year to watch some good baseball. I think Shary and McHigh will be a heck of a game these boys have been playing with, and against each other for years.

We were wondering where the Shary boys were hiding. Welcome to the MAN's forum. Be careful! It can be vicious in this house.:batman:

[4to bate]

matamoros team will be in action on a tournament in the valley this weekend most of the team in fact all the team will come to face valley teams

[pantherball09]

My projection.
1. McHi
2. Shary
3. Palmview
4. EHS
5. Browntown Lopez
6. ENHS
7. Mercedes
8. Edcouch Elsa (yes, tough group if they stay eligible)
the rest a toss up, PSJA lost Alexis, have not seen them play. Raiders, too early to tell. La Joya, lost to many kids to other schools. Niki Rowe, too many kids on thier squad to get an acurate assement.


EE isnt gonna do anything. thier varisty lost to the weslaco V team an all thier guys think theyre too good if anything east should be there in stead

[team diablitos]

4to bate they were coming to play but the matamoros team will not be playing this weekend after all.that division will not be happening although there will be other age divisions playing.

[Dirtbag]

1. (TIE) La Joya, McHi, Sharyland
*These 3 teams have been the best and will duke it out once again this year in 30-5A. Hard to rank one over another when they haven't played yet. Also think it is funny that everyone continues to overlook La Joya when they have essentially the same team back.
4. Brownsville Lopez
5. Edinburg North
6. Hidalgo
7. McAllen Rowe
8. Edinburg High
9. Rio Grande City
10. Mercedes